Prabhupāda: acintyāḥ khalu ye bhāvā na tāṁs tarkeṇa yojayet (Mahābhārata, Bhīṣma-parva 5.22). Things which are unperceivable by you, don't argue. Take the statement of the authority. So everything imperceptible . . . even this material world, you do not know what are these planets. Many hundred thousand millions are glittering. You do not know anything. Neither you can know it. Similarly, you cannot know, you have not done it, to manufacture life. How do you rascals say that, "It is like this. It is like this. It is chemical combination"? You cannot manufacture even egg, little chemical. But the chemical is coming from within the body of the chicken. It is being perfectly done, but you cannot do it. So what is your knowledge? Hmm? Why you are so much proud of this knowledge? It is so imperfect. Gargamuni: It seems also that this creation is also made to allow the living entities to act as a false lord. With all these scientific and science, it seems that this creation is also meant for those who want to act as a false lord, especially the scientists.
Prabhupāda: Everyone is working, false lord, who is working. Therefore he is under the laws of karma. He does not know. He does not know what is the goal of life, what to do. Nobody knows. He has to take direction.
Gargamuni: People are taking the authority of the scientists more than the creator.
Prabhupāda: What is this scientist? The scientists are rascals. These are the proofs. They are trying to go to the moon planet, but they do not know what is this. So many stars are hanging on my head. What are they? They cannot give any perfect information. They do not know. Two things they do not know, what is the meaning of science—real two things. One thing, how life come into existence; and how this planetary system is existing. They do not know. What is value of their science? There are so many things they do not know.
Gurukṛpā: Everything.
Prabhupāda: Practically everything. (chuckles) But these two we challenge. We can challenge. They know. Therefore they want to bluff. They know that it is not possible for them to know. They know it perfectly well. It is not possible for their so-called science to understand what is the situation of this planetary system and what is the origin of life. They do not know. They admit. Two things unknown. Everything is unknown, but especially these two things. Simply speculate and bluff and . . . mūḍha. And we consider them as rascals, that's all. By taking information from Kṛṣṇa, we understand these are rascals. Duṣkṛtino mūḍhāḥ narādhamāḥ, māyayāpahṛta-jñānāḥ (BG 7.15), bās.
Hari-śauri: Āsuraṁ bhāvam āśritāḥ.
Prabhupāda: Therefore we say that . . . we say: "They are rascals," and they say: "These are rascals, brainwashing." This is the position.
Hari-śauri: The demons and the demigods.
Prabhupāda: I say: "These rascal scientists are brainwashing," and they say: "These rascal Kṛṣṇas, they are brainwashing." (laughs) This is the position. But so far us, we have got some support and we have got authorities, and these rascals, they have no authority. They simply speculate. So even we are rascals, they are . . . among these two rascals, we are better rascal, (laughs) not they are better. That's all.