Gopāla Kṛṣṇa: I know from practical experience, Śrīla Prabhupāda, that... I just played this Alex's record. It's all current pop music with English philosophy wording. (indistinct comments between devotees) And all the brahmacārīs were so agitated, they came to my room to listen and they were, you know, really making fun of it like it was a pop...
Akṣayānanda: Because that style of music, it reminds us of the nightclubs or whatever it might be.
Prabhupāda: Therefore I said it is better not to make these records.
Gopāla Kṛṣṇa: Just your records and paramparā records should be played, I think. There are so many tapes of your records.
Hari-śauri: Yeah, well this style that they are doing now, they explain that they wanted that because then that way, they'll be able get them played on the radio. Otherwise they won't play bhajanas or anything on the radio. But there's a distinction between that kind of music and pure Kṛṣṇa consciousness music. Even though the words indicate Kṛṣṇa consciousness, most of the songs are written in such a way that it's like it's indirect. It's not directly Kṛṣṇa. It's indirect.
Gopāla Kṛṣṇa: But you can't hear the words.
Prabhupāda: Yes, indirect.
Hari-śauri: They give this thing, "The caterpillar changed his mind," like that. It's like it provokes some speculation.
Prabhupāda: No, indirect for gross outsiders, not for us. Therefore they should not be played in the temple. Gross outsider only.
Gopāla Kṛṣṇa: So, Prabhupāda, the New York temple has just produced a ballet on Rāmāyaṇa, and one boy, Vijayadeva, just came back and he brought a slideshow on that ballet.
Prabhupāda: Ballet?
Gopāla Kṛṣṇa: They did a ballet, the New York theater, Sudāmā Swami and his group. But that ballet is accompanied by a classical Western record in background. It's a twenty med... They have just played the whole record as background music. And I know, we showed it in Bombay, and none of the devotees liked it. They told me to stop that show because they said it's all māyā. Everyone saw it, Girirāja and...
Prabhupāda: So they should be restricted.
Gopāla Kṛṣṇa: I mean, their playing... Serious devotees don't like it. Like Girirāja walked out of the show, and he told me to stop it.
Prabhupāda: So why it was played, this?
Gopāla Kṛṣṇa: They just brought it from New York, so we didn't know what it contained. But they are doing this in other centers.