Prabhupāda: So what is the real proposal? I do not follow. Why don't you say frankly? This is . . . why in a (laughs) jugglery way? State what is the fact?
Devotee (2): Well, like, if one is in a big temple, he's a cook in a big temple.
Prabhupāda: Yes. In a big temple, the cooker and the man who is worshiping the Deity and the man who is sweeping over, they're all one. There is no distinction. There is no such material dis . . . in the material world, if somebody's doing nice job, he is greater, and if somebody's not nice job, he's smaller. In spiritual world, there is no such distinction.
Devotee (2): So one is like that, in a comfortable situation . . .
Prabhupāda: Comfortable situation is also sense gratification. Any situation, we shall have to serve Kṛṣṇa. That is Kṛṣṇa consciousness. Not that, "If it is comfortable to me, I shall do it." That is sense gratification. That is sense gratification. That is not spiritual, that is material. "Comfortable or uncomfortable, it doesn't matter. If Kṛṣṇa wants it, I must do it." That is wanted. That is wanted. As soon as I discriminate, "This is comfortable, this is uncomfortable," that is material.