Prabhupāda: These are four classes. One distressed, he also seeks the help of God. And another?
Dhṛṣṭadyumna: The desirer of wealth.
Prabhupāda: Yes. In need of money, "God, I am so poor. Kindly give me some money." So he's approached God. That is his piety. Although God should not be asked. Pure devotion means God should not be bothered. Simply we shall render service. "God is great. I am His servant. So my duty is to render service without any profit." The profit is there. To be accepted as God's servant, that is the greatest profit.
Scheverman: That's what Jesus said: "Behold the lilies of the field, they neither toil nor spin, and yet not even Solomon in all his glory was arrayed as one of these. Seek first the kingdom of heaven, and all these things—what you shall eat, what you shall drink—shall be added to you besides." Yes.
Dhṛṣṭadyumna: Jijñāsu, the inquisitive, curious.
Prabhupāda: Inquisitive, one is trying to understand what is God, and he is also pious.
Scheverman: "Lord teach me, show me."
Prabhupāda: Yes, yes.
Kern: Do you use the Bible for that?
Scheverman: Do you use the Judeo-Christian scriptures at all in your work?
Prabhupāda: I know that there are good instructions. So generally.... We haven't got to fight with anyone or disagree. We have to accept the general principles for the welfare of the whole human society. Just like to become peaceful: it is the duty of everyone. At least, those who are in the top rank. (aside:) Just bring. First of all, give it to the Father. (referring to prasādam or garlands?)
Devotees: Jaya! This is from the altar.
Scheverman: Praise God, for His beautiful things.
Prabhupāda: Give. Give one to the president.
Kern: We are grateful for the time that you have given us.
Prabhupāda: I am also very much obliged that you came.
Kern: And we are happy. And if we can be helpful, we would be...
Prabhupāda: Yes, let us cooperate for the whole human society.
Scheverman: I feel very much like one of the disciples, so to speak, coming with the master, and it's a great privilege to be able to join this circle this evening.
Devotees: Jaya! Haribol.
Scheverman: Thank you. Oh, we're to eat this?
Hari-śauri: Oh, yes, that's what it's meant for.
Dhṛṣṭadyumna: Father, would you please accept one of our Bhagavad-gītās for your library?
Scheverman: Thank you very much. I cook once in a while, too, so I'm very interested in what the ingredients are for various kinds of food.
Hari-śauri: We can teach you how to cook very expertly.
Scheverman: Very good.
Devotee (1): Chick pea flour, butter and sugar, nuts, dried fruit.
Pālikā: They're very nice.
Scheverman: May I take it with me?
Pālikā: Oh, yes.
Scheverman: All right, thank you.
Prabhupāda: Take more also, give him one more.
Scheverman: They're very good. I'm afraid I won't be very enlightened if I eat all this.
Hari-śauri: You have the Fathers' shoes?
Scheverman: We'll get them when we go down. It's a great pleasure. May the Lord bless you in your work. Continue.
Pālikā: Hare Kṛṣṇa. Very nice to meet you. Hare Kṛṣṇa.
Scheverman: We'll see you in.... (priests depart)
Prabhupāda: Somebody's going (indistinct)
Jayādvaita: These priests like to be in the position of your disciples.
Prabhupāda: Hmm?
Jayādvaita: These Christian priests.
Prabhupāda: If you remain to your principles, you can make the whole world your disciple. Pṛthivīṁ sa śiṣyāt. You have read that?
Jayādvaita: Yes. Upadeśāmṛta.
Prabhupāda: Yes. Pṛthivīṁ sa śiṣyāt. If one is a gosvāmī,
- vāco vegaṁ manasaḥ krodha-vegaṁ
- jihvā-vegam udaropastha-vegam
- etān vegān yo viṣaheta dhīraḥ
- sarvām apīmāṁ pṛthivīṁ sa śiṣyāt
- (NOI 1)
You'll be accepted. We don't speak Eastern-Western. We speak for everywhere. Or Christian or Hindu. We never speak like that. I think I never said like that, that: "Our Eastern people think like that, Hindus think..." I never said. Why shall I say? It is for everyone. If you do not become peaceful, that is your business. But when I say "You become peaceful," that is meant for everyone. All right.