Bhāgavata: That area around Purī Hotel there has depreciated due to tourism. Due to the tourists coming, that area around Purī Hotel, too many..., everyone walking, and ladies and men together...
Prabhupāda: Eating everything.
Bhāgavata: ...eating everything and taking bath together in the lake. Not a very good atmosphere. The boys and girls are walking hand in hand.
Prabhupāda: They go to enjoy sex.
Bhāgavata: Yes. It is a mahā-tīrtha, but they go there for...
Prabhupāda: Sense gratification.
Bhāgavata: ...sense gratification.
Prabhupāda: No, we can develop here. Here also people...
Bhāgavata: At Bhuvaneśvara.
Prabhupāda: One magistrate came. There were many respected people came.
Prabhupāda: Yes. If we make here nice arrangement, nice preaching, people will come here. People will come when there is real teaching.
Hari-śauri: In Vṛndāvana no one was coming to Rāman Reti until our temple was there. Now thousands come.
Prabhupāda: Nobody was coming. What...? Why they will come Rāman Reti?
Hari-śauri: It was a very dangerous area, actually, to come to.
Prabhupāda: And Bon Mahārāja is there for the last forty years. Nobody came. Nobody goes there. (laughter) It is always locked. Great failure. So much money he has squandered, lakhs and lakhs.
Hari-śauri: No kīrtana, no Deities.
Prabhupāda: And he wanted to attract foreigners. And not a single foreigner.