Prabhupāda: Our mission is very grave and it should be act sincerly and then we get power from Kṛṣṇa. If we act really as representative of Kṛṣṇa then we will feel His power. So generally we utilize religion as a means of livelihood. That is going on. Eh? That is going on . . . anywhere all over the world, still because the natural tendency, kṛṣṇa-bhakti nitya-siddha, kṛṣṇa-bhakti (CC Madhya 22.107).
Affection for Kṛṣṇa or God there is everywhere. And, therefore whenever there is some religious talk people gather, people like it. But these leaders, religious leaders they fight, for their livelihood. Therefore it is degraded.
Haṁsadūta: . . . (indistinct)
Prabhupāda: Eh?
Haṁsadūta: . . . (indistinct)
Prabhupāda: That they . . . they do not know. They are not bad men. I can understand that old man. He is not a bad man and this, what is called? Bhogaji, vairagi, he also not a bad man. But he's not . . . they are not properly guided. They have learned some hodgepodge. That's all. That is going on everywhere. Just like yesterday two boys came.
Haṁsadūta: Yes.
Prabhupāda: And . . . (indistinct) . . . everything. For the last 45 years. (laughter) they are conducting . . . (indistinct) . . . and I tell him . . . (indistinct) . . . that you do not know anything. And they admit it. How they can know? Unless they hear from the representative of Kṛṣṇa they cannot understand. It is not possible. That is going on all over the world . . . and the people say that's nice. Then you are the . . . (indistinct) . . . challenging like that, "Then are you the only representative of Kṛṣṇa's present?" So I said, "Yes." Yes. Because I know because I am sincere representative, representing my Guru Mahārāja. Therefore I am clear representative of Kṛṣṇa.