Yaśodānandana: Do you think that as the Kali-yuga progresses the people are getting smaller, does this mean that Kṛṣṇa and His associates were much taller in stature than we are now?
Prabhupāda: Yes.
Yaśodānandana: They were much bigger.
Prabhupāda: You have seen that Rādhā-Dāmodara temple, Kṛṣṇa footprint impression.
Devotee: That means Kṛṣṇa must have been fifteen or twenty feet tall?
Prabhupāda: (indistinct) . . . but it is a fact, formerly people were taller. We have seen. In our childhood we have seen, when European, they were very tall.
Devotee (2): They were taller and they lived longer.
Devotee: That story about King Mucukunda, when he was sleeping in the cave and he came out of the cave and looked outside and he said: "Oh, it must be Kali-yuga," because the trees were smaller and . . .
Prabhupāda: Do you . . . (indistinct) . . . the mango trees now? Some of the trees, just like the lemon tree, stunted. In Japan they grow many trees.
Devotee (2): In Japan they cultivate trees to be like that, very small. They have little orange trees.
Brahmānanda: Miniatures.
Devotee (2): Orange trees are this big, orange trees.
Prabhupāda: They are also becoming oranges. Japanese are dwarfs.
Haṁsadūta: The Japanese and Chinese are very, very small.
Prabhupāda: (indistinct) . . . (break) . . . Bengal especially. There is a proverb, kalo brahmaṇa kata śūdra bete mussulman kalki chele puṣṭi putra . . . (indistinct) . . . a brāhmaṇa, black . . . Brāhmaṇa's another name is śukla, white. So as soon as a brāhmaṇa is black, then he's bastard. Kalo brāhmaṇa. Kota śūdra, and śūdra . . . just like African, if they become white, there is something mystery. Kalo brāhmaṇa kata śūdra bete mussulman. And Muhammadan . . . because Muhammadan means the Afghans; they are very tall. So a Mussulman is dwarf, a brāhmaṇa is black, the śūdra is white, kalo brāhmaṇa kota śūdra bete mussulman, and kalki chelo, that means the bastard, and puṣṭi putra, and adopted son, these are all of the same class. Adopted son, he gets money without any labor, he spends like anything. In your country there is adopted son?
Haṁsadūta: Yeah, yeah.
Prabhupāda: Here there are many adopted son. A rich man has no son, he adopts somebody, rascal, and he spends money like . . . there are so many instance. Squanders it. He'll be satisfied after finishing even. There are many instances. In our childhood, many you have heard, we have seen one, when the adopted son, he gets big property, and he was not satisfied to squander all the money unless it became a pauper. That I've seen. He had many cars, and I saw him, he was drenched by water, rainfall, sitting in a rickshaw. Nobody cares for him. When he was rich, big, big men would come to see him, even Burdwan Mahārāja. Now I saw him that he was in Dharmatala, it was raining and he was sitting in a rickshaw. Nobody cares for him. And he was satisfied at that time after finishing the whole money. Otherwise, hundreds and two hundred friends, there was very big house, bring, I mean to say, received as guests daily . . . . (indistinct) . . . his name was Arendranath Sil.