Prabhupāda: Well, there are so many painters. You can bring from Los Angeles.
Mādhavānanda: Yes, I was thinking.
Rakṣaṇa: Rādhā-vallabha can set up like Māyāpur. They're all waterproofed and everything else there.
Prabhupāda: Give them one big room.
Mādhavānanda: I was thinking to ask Baradrāj to come, because he . . .
Prabhupāda: He's busy there, but somebody may go there and learn from Baradrāj how to make dolls and prepare here. One room. There are so many big, big rooms.
Mādhavānanda: Yes, I was thinking that.
Prabhupāda: Make diorama. People will come to see.
Mādhavānanda: They like those things very much.
Prabhupāda: Instead of so-called library, reception, you make doll room, these big, big rooms. All big glass case . . .
Mādhavānanda: Yes. They would like that very much.
Prabhupāda: Yes.
Mādhavānanda: Because already this is like a historic museum.
Prabhupāda: Yes.
Mādhavānanda: It's so beautiful.
Prabhupāda: Yes. So in big glass case . . . one girl saw me in Los Angeles. No? Hawaii.
Hari-śauri: Candranibha?
Prabhupāda: So she's not getting facility in Hawaii. She can come here with two, three assistants. There is so much place here. So correspond with . . .
Mādhavānanda: Hawaii.
Prabhupāda: Yes. Or ask our Govinda dāsī. Write one letter to Govinda dāsī—I'll sign—that, "You can come with your assistants. Here is a very good scope for doll making and exhibit. And the place is very nice. You'll like." So many other girls, they can also learn. Doll making is very easy. It is not difficult.
Mādhavānanda: We have good facility here for it.
Prabhupāda: Oh, yes. The clay is soft here?
Mādhavānanda: Well, usually they purchase clay, don't they? For Baradrāj's? Usually they purchase art clay in America.
Prabhupāda: Oh. Fuller's earth. That is wanted, Fuller's earth.
Mādhavānanda: Actually, the previous owner of this house, he wanted to make this a restaurant, a very posh restaurant on the waterfront, and he applied for many, many months to get permission from the city. And finally he got it. So actually we have restaurant status here. It would be very easy for us to start a restaurant. People would come . . . when people see the house, they are so amazed.
Hari-śauri: That would be a big attraction—a waterside restaurant.
Prabhupāda: Hmm, yes.
Mādhavānanda: We could have tables and chairs on the grounds, and . . .
Prabhupāda: No, we are not going to do it. Better make it a doll exhibition. And give them prasādam free. Restaurant in the city, that is all right. Not here. Nobody will come to the restaurant from the city. That is not possible. But we give them free prasādam. Let them come and see, and read our book, and take prasādam. (japa) (break)
Makhanlāl: . . . Prabhupāda, you mentioned that soon there will not be so much use for automobiles. What will be our means of spreading the saṅkīrtana movement?
Prabhupāda: We shall walk. You'll have good exercise. (laughter)
Makhanlāl: By ox cart also?
Prabhupāda: If possible; if not, walk. What is that?
Hari-śauri: Maybe we can develop some mystic opulence and walk on the water.
Prabhupāda: Here, in this world, everything has got six changes: birth, then stay, and then develop, then by-products, then dwindle, then finish. Everything. So the motorcar civilization, it was born. And now the time has come it is dwindling, and it will be finished. Just like railway, railway no more interest, anybody. But when it was invented, it was very important. Now it is useless. That is the nature of everything here in this material world. It cannot be permanent benefit. That they do not know. They become very enthusiastic when some new thing is born. Child is born, I am very happy. The same child, when he's dead, I am unhappy. But one must know: what is born, it will die. So everything material has got a period of development, then it dwindles and then finishes. So from this nature's law, we can see this motorcar attraction, utility, it will be finished. It will not stay.