Even they are with degrees of M.A. Ph.D., tyaja durjana saṁsargaṁ vidyayālaṅkṛto 'pi san. Even he is educated, so-called educated, he's not educated. Anyone who does not know about God, he's not educated, he's a rascal. This is our conclusion. Not our conclusion, this is śāstra's conclusion. So "He has got so many degrees and he's a rascal and he's durjana, a bad man?" "Yes." "Why?" Now, maṇinā bhuṣitaḥ sarpaḥ kim asau na bhayāṅkaraḥ. Suppose a serpent, he has got a gem on his head. Is it not fearful? Very good example. Suppose a snake comes here and it has a jewel on the head. So you'll be all safe? (laughter) No. He's dangerous.
So that is going on. So-called educated scientist, degrees, what they're doing? Atom bomb, kill men. This is their scientific discovery: that you can kill a man with a knife, one man or two men; now we have got scientific discovery, millions of men in a moment. "Come on, discovery." So why don't you discover something that millions of hospitals, diseased men can be brought into life again immed . . .? That we cannot do. Kill, killing, killing is going on. What you have discovered? So this is their scientific . . . discover something and declare that there is no more death. Here is medicine. Then that is scientific discovery. What is this nonsense?