Prabhupāda: Yes. Practically everything depends on practice. Abhyāsa-yoga-yuktena cetasā nānya-gāminā (BG 8.8). Abhyāsa-yoga. Abhyāsa-yoga means yoga practice... Practice it. So this whole Kṛṣṇa consciousness movement is to practice transferring from one kind of consciousness to another. So we require practice. Just like one man can run few miles. I cannot run even one mile. He has practiced. We see some boys, they run, run on. They practice. Practice it. Strength of the heart increasing by practice. And if I run, my heart will be palpitating. Because I have no practice. So by practice, everything can be attained. Hare Rāma Hare Rāma Rāma Rāma Hare Hare. (break) ...determination. And this determination is increased by celibacy. Brahmacārya is recommended to keep oneself determined. A brahmacārī, if he determines something, he executes. He has got that strength of mind. Those who are too much addicted to sex life, they cannot be determined. They cannot be fixed-up. They are fluctuating, changing. People are, in modern day, they cannot sit down in a place for a long time. Therefore so much traveling. The traveling business is very prosperous.
For a long time (Conversations)
Expressions researched:
"for a long time"
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|"for a many long time"
|"for a very long time"
|"for such a long time"
Conversations and Morning Walks
1968 Conversations and Morning Walks
Reporter: The residents of the moon live for a long time? Thousands of years?
Prabhupāda: Thousands of years.
Reporter: Now are you talking about...
Prabhupāda: This information we get from Śrīmad-Bhāgavatam. Śrīmad-Bhāgavatam, this book. I have rendered into English.
Reporter: Which book is this?
Prabhupāda: Śrīmad-Bhāgavatam.
Reporter: Was this a book which you wrote or translated or...
Prabhupāda: Translated and commented.
Reporter: Translations and comments.
Prabhupāda: Yes. Similarly, I have translated this book also. This is being published by Macmillan company, one of the biggest publisher of your country.
1969 Conversations and Morning Walks
Prabhupāda: Yes.
Rayarama: So each star is a different universe.
Prabhupāda: Begin, begin. (eating) Yes. Gargamuni, you distribute this purī.
Gargamuni: Made some curry. (everyone eating for a long time)
Prabhupāda: Everything hot.
Brahmānanda: Yes.
Prabhupāda: Before Kṛṣṇa consciousness, was there any purī manufactured here? No. (laughs)
Gargamuni: No. None of this.
Prabhupāda: No, no. He said there is no use of books. Then why he wrote so many books?
George Harrison: But in Hrishikesh, when we meditated for a long time, one man got tired of meditation, and he thought... He made the excuse to read the Gītā so he could come out of meditation, and he opened the Gītā and it said, "Don't read books. Meditate."
Prabhupāda: Who says?
George Harrison: The Gītā said it.
Prabhupāda: "Don't read books"?
George Harrison: It said, "Don't read books. Meditate."
1973 Conversations and Morning Walks
Śrīdhara Mahārāja: Hare Krsna, Hare Krsna. So, our Swami Mahārāja has done a miracle! (Laughingly) He has done a miracle. What Bhaktivinoda conceived and (Srila Bhaktisiddhanta Saraswati) Prabhupada tried according to his conception to translate into action we find that through Swami Mahārāja in his last days these revelations have been fulfilled. We are happy, we are glad, we are proud of Swami Mahārāja, and of you all too. When any person comes to take diksa and stay at the Math, we say that after wandering for a long time in a foreign land he is again coming back to his home. Home means homeward, back to God "back to home, back to Godhead." Back to Godhead means back to home, sweet, sweet home. Our home and life is there and nowhere else. So we may be quite free there of any misgivings or misconduct with such bold and clear faith we can go on, onward and onward. Hare Krsna, Hare Krsna. Vāñchā-kalpatarubhyaś ca kṛpā-sindhubhya eva ca....
Prabhupāda: Jaya oṁ viṣṇupāda paramahaṁsa parivrājakācārya....So we are thinking we are very much fortunate to hear His Divine Grace Oṁ Viṣṇupāda Paramahaṁsa Parivrājakācārya Bhakti Raksaka Śrīdhara Mahārāja. He is, by age and experience, in both ways he is senior to me. I am also always fortunate to have his association for a very long timeperhaps since nineteen hundred and thirty or something like that. At that time, he did not accept sannyāsa; he just left home, vanaprastha. In his white dress he went to Allahabad.
Prabhupāda: Yeah, everyone appreciated.
Mukunda: The last thing they said on the program was, "Perhaps this will give us something to think about for a long time."
Prabhupāda: Oh, yes, certainly.
David Wynne: It must.
Śyāmasundara: No one could deny. They had never seen such a colorful parade, so full of festivity. (Someone walks up to Prabhupāda.)
Prabhupāda: Oh, I could have gone there. All right. (Sound of washing hands in bowl.) Yes. So I am very glad that you have come and you have taken prasādam. Very nice.
Prabhupāda: You are Indian?
Dr. Inger: Yes, I'm an Indian. I have been working a long time in Paris. I am a resident more or less in Paris. I work for UNESCO, and I'm a writer. I go backwards and forwards a lot to India. But my headquarters have been here for a long time. So I'm associated...
Prabhupāda: How long you are here?
Dr. Inger: In France, I've been twenty-five years.
Prabhupāda: Oh, I see. And wherefrom you came?
Dr. Inger: Punjab.
Prabhupāda: Punjab.
Prabhupāda: ...your position there?
Dr. Inger: Well, now I am a consultant. I used to be a regular member of the staff for a long time. Now I do certain projects for them, and I'm a visiting professor, and I'm a writer, visiting professor at different universities. So I'm connected with, with UNESCO in a way that I can not be now a permanent member of the staff which I was... (break)
Prabhupāda: ...purpose is not to propose only. Because I wish that there are so many scient..., scientific men, philosophers and thoughtful men... Suppose even if I ask you, what is your answer, that what is the purpose...? The cosmic manifestation is there, the universe is there, and there are innumerable planets within this universe, and they are very organizely kept. Everything is nicely going on. The sun is rising in due time. The moon is rising in due time. The seasons, seasons are changing. There is nice organization. So is it not a bona fide inquiry to, "What is the purpose of this organization?"
Prabhupāda: Uṣitvā śāśvatīḥ samāḥ. For a very long time. Because to get life in the heavenly planets means at least ten thousands of years. In their calculation. Their one day is equal to six months. In that way ten thousand years. Uṣitvā śāśvatīḥ samāḥ. What is it? Uṣitvā śāśvatīḥ samāḥ?
Pradyumna: Uṣitvā śāśvatīḥ samāḥ, śucīnāṁ śrīmatāṁ gehe yoga-bhraṣṭo 'bhijāyate (BG 6.41).
Prabhupāda: Then, again they come down to this material world and he takes birth either in a very exalted brāhmaṇa family, śucīnām, or very rich, vaiśya family. After enjoying there, again he's given chance to become Kṛṣṇa conscious. And if he misses, then again he goes down. Therefore Narottama dāsa Ṭhākura says these are all false elevation. If I have to come again back, again I have to accept another lower grade life, then what is the profit? Kṛṣṇa gives His straight understanding, tyaktvā dehaṁ punar janma naiti mām eti: (BG 4.9) You become Kṛṣṇa conscious.
1974 Conversations and Morning Walks
Prabhupāda: He came in India and...
Dr. Patel: Lived somewhere in Kashmir. That is what I have in article. He lived for a very long time after crucifixion. In crucifixion he went in great samādhi, and when the cross was brought down, he came out of samādhi after three days. That is the resurrection.
Prabhupāda: He was... Yes.
Dr. Patel: And then he was brought back by his disciples to India.
Prabhupāda: That is quite possible.
Dr. Patel: There is a big community called Issans(?) and Issans are somewhere in between Tigris and that Doab(?), you know, Tigris and Euphrates Rivers. From there he migrated to the Palestine area and preached those fellows all the philosophy that he learned in India. That is... That man has said. So I consider Christianity is a part of..., one of the pañca, of Hindu... of the...
Prabhupāda: No, no. Christianity is Vaiṣṇavism.
Prabhupāda: That's all right. Buddha philosophy...
Guest: What Buddha said was, he says, "Don't accept anything because I tell it to you. Don't accept anything because it's been believed for a long time by many people in many different places." He says, "Only believe that which you find true for yourself, and that is for your own good and for the good of others."
Prabhupāda: But these are teachings of Buddha.
Guest: Huh, but...
Prabhupāda: But...
Guest: But he's pointing at how to arrive at principles of truth. This, this is, uh, more uh, of an independent approach. He's not uh, I don't think he was trying to cheat anybody but he was trying to...
Prabhupāda: This is cleanliness. Instead of keeping unnecessary hair, we keep very clean.
Swiss Man (2): (French)
Yogeśvara: These traditions have existed for a long time, he's asking.
Prabhupāda: Yes. Especially the brāhmaṇas, they keep the shaven head. Brāhmaṇas are the topmost class. What is the symptoms of brāhmaṇa, find out.
Yogeśvara: (French)
Yogeśvara: Jyotirmayī, perhaps you can explain what Mr. Priest's qualifications are.
Jyotirmayī: Yeah, Mr. (indistinct) is a priest, and he has been for a long time in India, a Christian priest, and he was very glad to know what you are doing here. Kṛṣṇa consciousness was...
Prabhupāda: In India, where did you stay?
Priest: In Poona.
Prabhupāda: Poona, oh. How long you were there?
Priest: Twenty-five years.
Prabhupāda: Oh, then you are Indian. (laughter)
Priest: Half of my time, yes, I was in India, half my life.
Prabhupāda: Twenty-five years in a place means you domicile. Yes, naturally.
Priest: Did you come to Poona?
Prabhupāda: Then tell me your experience. That I want to know.
Priest: That every time I had an experience of God, and first I went through the bhakta, and I was a bhakta for a long, long time, then I found out that God was beyond my experience.
Prabhupāda: That means you have no experience. How can I talk with you?
Priest: That the image of God, whether you call it Kṛṣṇa or Rāma or Nṛsiṁha or any of the avatāra... And you know, near our place in Poona in Amenagar(?), there was a swami who called himself an avatāra, and...
Prabhupāda: That anyone can say. I can say third avatāra, he can say fourth avatāra.
Prabhupāda: Hm?
Jyotirmayī: God has no name in Christianity, but the son of God has a name. And before they use for a long time, and everywhere they were saying the name of Jesus Christ.
Prabhupāda: But they say that in Christianity there is a name of God. They say. No?
Jyotirmayī: (French)
Prabhupāda: But you said that His name be glorified.
Devotee: They say "Hallowed be Thy name."
Priest: But the name is not said.
Prabhupāda: Harer nāma (CC Adi 17.21). Harer nāma means God's name.
Priest: You see, for instance, in Christianity for a long time there was a bhakti, and this bhakti was devoted to the name of Jesus. So for a very long time you had that Jesus bhakti. And in your country, in America today, like you have got the Hare Kṛṣṇa, you have got also the Jesus devotees. Now, this is also present in many places. And the name does not matter. There is no name who has got the... Because then you find again what...
Prabhupāda: No. If Jesus is the name of God, then you can chant. If Jesus is the name of God. But Jesus, Lord Jesus Christ, says that he is son of God. Of course, there is no difference between son and the father. That is another thing. But still, if I want the father, how by calling the name of son I can get the father? That is also another thing.
Bhagavān: Objection is that the people have become so impatient for sense gratification, they have no patience anymore. They can't wait... There was some story. In the United States, there has been this trouble with petrol, and... All over the world, there's been this trouble with petrol, gasoline. So there was rationing. That means people could only get a little gas. So the cars would line up for a great distance in the gas station, and they'd wait for a long time. And sometimes the gas station would run out of gas. And the people would get so angry that they killed the gas station attendant. (break) ...does not teach anyone to be austere or patient.
Prabhupāda: But human life is meant for austere and patience. Tapo divyam (SB 5.5.1). Austerity, penance, that is human life. Otherwise, it is animal life. Simply animal civilization. It is not human civilization. Hare Kṛṣṇa... (car is in gas station, conversation in car about how much gas to get, etc.) (break) ...progressing, they stand their own position, as they are made by nature. Therefore there is no criminality. They are under full control of nature. We are also under full control of nature, but we have been given little concession: to cultivate spiritual knowledge.
1975 Conversations and Morning Walks
Prabhupāda: Yes.
Guest (1): The masses.
Prabhupāda: Yes, that we are doing.
Guest (1): They have been steeped in ignorance for such a long time, it will take a long time to bring them into the fold of spiritualism.
Prabhupāda: No, it has been made easy by Lord Caitanya Mahāprabhu. That you don't commit sinful activities and chant Hare Kṛṣṇa. Chant Hare Kṛṣṇa and don't commit sinful life, that's all. And sinful life we have given them, no illicit sex—we don't say, "no sex"—no illicit sex, no illicit sex, no meat eating. Suppose... They are not now eating meat, are they unhealthy? They are known now as bright-faced. So no illicit sex, no meat eating, no intoxication, and no gambling. This is avoiding sinful life. And chant Hare Kṛṣṇa. Do you see the result? Do you see the result? Within four, five years how they have advanced. Not that they're Vedantists or they have studied all the Vedas, not that.
Prabhupāda: Good night. Hare Kṛṣṇa.
Guest 1: I think you must be very happy to see what's happened in Melbourne.
Prabhupāda: Yes, I am very happy. This house is quite suitable for our purpose.
Guest 1: They looked very hard and for a long time.
Prabhupāda: Yes.
Guest 1: And they had a lot of difficulty. This is one of the things that I imagine, you know, the story that the Catholic Church, Roman Catholic Church owned this property. And it was almost by devious means that it was acquired.
Prabhupāda: They did not want to give us?
Prabhupāda: So concept of cell is the cell is just like bricks. Matter and spirit, two things are there. Either it must be matter or must be spirit.
Ravīndra-svarūpa: But it's seen that the scientists, they can take some skin from your body and by putting in different solutions can keep that skin itself alive for such a long time. They have taken the heart of a chicken out of the chicken's body and then kept it beating for so many hours even though that heart was away from the main chicken. Or they take some other tissue and keep it alive. So they say that each cell is an individual living being.
Prabhupāda: So we have no objection.
Ravīndra-svarūpa: That is all right. So there is a spirit soul in every...
Prabhupāda: No, no. All right or not all right I don't say. But if they say like that, we have no objection
Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: Nothing positive, though.
Prabhupāda: Yes. "You are O.K., I am O.K." That's all. (laughter)
Yadubara: Like that Yogi Bhajan. He didn't say anything for a long time. Then when he spoke he started speaking about his court cases.
Prabhupāda: Court cases?
Yadubara: Yes.
Prabhupāda: He is very expert, expert in dealing with legal cases. So what they will speak? What they have got? Better not to talk.
Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: Yes. During that meeting, that Muni, he was interested in spiritual conversation. But Yogi Bhajan, he did not take part at all in that part.
Prabhupāda: No, no, he is after woman. That's all.
1976 Conversations and Morning Walks
Prabhupāda: I challenged him, "You are Buddhist." "Yes." "You are eating meat?" "Yes." "What is this?" (laughs) That was my first talking with him.
Sudāmā: They were wanting to talk business for a long time. You were simply preaching to them.
Prabhupāda: Just like Caitanya Mahāprabhu went to the Kazi. His first question was that "What kind of religion you are following? You are killing your father and mother?" This was His beginning of the talk. "What kind of religion it is?" "How is that? I am killing my father, mother?" "Yes, cow is your mother and bull is your father. You are killing them. The bull is giving you grains by working in the field, and the mother is giving you milk, and you are killing them." This was his first question. So this is a civilization of killing father and mother. All over the world they are killing bulls and cows. In England there is law that you can maintain a cow but you cannot maintain a bull. It must be killed. Yes. When I was a guest in John Lennon's house the manager in charge, he was telling me. "You cannot keep bull. This is our law." I learned from him.
Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: My passport is already like a businessman. I already.... I was thinking to do this for a long time.
Prabhupāda: And therefore it was burst out last night. Do it. (break)
Siddha-svarūpa: ...the statement by the leader, they put out this manifesto or something. He said that the boys should not get married until twenty-five years old, and that they should remain celibate and that they...
Prabhupāda: Chinese people?
Siddha-svarūpa: Yes. And they're very strong on celibacy because he said that the.... If a person loses semen or if they masturbate or if they unnecessarily use their sexual energy, they'll go insane. Their brains will become very weak, and physically they'll become very weak.
Prabhupāda: Yes. That is a fact.
Prabhupāda: Yes.
Lokanātha: And you mentioned they were clapping for a long, long time after hearing you speak.
Prabhupāda: Not long, long time, but... Madhudviṣa, you remember that Catholic...
Madhudviṣa: Yes, they asked you about St. Francis, about him chanting to the dogs and the trees and the birds. And you said, "That is actually God-realization. Samaḥ sarveṣu bhūteṣu."
Prabhupāda: And when they asked about Christ, and "He's our guru."
Madhudviṣa: You started your main lecture off there, "Our Father, who art in heaven, hallowed be Thy name." And then you went on to explain about the holy name.
Prabhupāda: Hm, (indistinct) are here. Why is it? Some wood. (break) ...grow foodgrains, simple living.
Bhūrijana: I don't think they can do it for very long.
Prabhupāda: Eh?
Bhūrijana: I don't think that they can continue for a very long time if they are not advanced.
Prabhupāda: But actually they're doing. So why do you say they cannot continue long?
Hari-sauri: No, he's saying that if they weren't..., that they must be advanced actually if you look at it in the proper perspective. The ones that are continually distributing, they, they must be advanced. Otherwise one could not do it for a very long time.
Prabhupāda: He's a good boy.
Mādhavānanda: Śrīla Prabhupāda? There are many, many guests coming, Indian people coming. We have not seen so many coming for a long time, and I think it is because they know you are here. (break)
Prabhupāda: One or two words, that is enough. Godless civilization. Everything, there is proof, there is father, the supreme father. And still they do not believe in God. He says ahaṁ bīja-pradaḥ pitā, "I am the seed-giving father." We have got experience that father gives the seed in the womb of the mother and then the child takes body from the mother and comes out. Everyone knows.
Mādhavānanda: There is a very large factory over there. You can see the smokestacks. What is it? What kind of factory? Electrical company.
Prabhupāda: We have got open place, but not very pleasant. You cannot sit down for a long time. The wind is cold.
Mādhavānanda: Very beautiful here, all over the grounds. There's also very beautiful places over there and all over.
Prabhupāda: So develop it nicely. (break) ...fruit and flower trees. Mango trees, all fruits, banana, papaya, jackfruit, apple, guava...
Hari-śauri: Pineapple.
Prabhupāda: Pineapple. And flowers.
Prabhupāda: Niyataḥ. You should read Bhagavad-gītā so thoroughly for everything. That is good lawyer. Good lawyer means in the court, immediately give reference to the judge, "My Lordship, such and such law, under section...this is there." He's a good lawyer. Good lawyer means he immediately gives reference to the section on which he's talking. Immediately judgement is there. If there is previous authority and it is recorded in the lawbook, then he doesn't require to argue anymore, the evidence is there. Even in other court, if some judgement is there, they'll be accepted. This is the law. So a good lawyer means he gives references from different courts, the judgement makes easier. Instead of proceeding for a long time, he gives reference—"Here is the judgement, you see," and immediately...
Sadāpūta: We are also thinking that this inspiration illustrated the modes of nature and the law of karma to some extent, because like the mathematician had to struggle very painfully for a very long time without getting his result, and then he got it, so that seemed more like the mode of passion and like that. But Mozart apparently just got these things without having to struggle for them, as though that was his past karma or something. Next slide. This is a summary of the basic kind of argument we wanted to make. The picture on the left, those ovals represent states of matter, configurations of matter, and they go from simple, toward the bottom, like just a chemical solution, up towards more complex as you go up, like living bodies of different kinds. The theory of evolution is sort of indicated in the left-hand one. According to that theory, you have very simple natural laws, and you start out with simple physical states, but somehow these natural laws produce a progressive increase in order, as indicated by those arrows going up. But actually we want to argue that simple natural laws don't have the power to do that, and that the situation on the right is what would happen if you just had simple natural laws, namely they would keep shoving things around on a simple level but never produce anything complex. The next slide, though, indicates that if you had natural laws with a high order of complexity, then they could manifest physical situations with a high order of complexity also, depending on how much was built into the laws. So we wanted to, in these two examples, indicate a higher and higher order of natural laws. So what we wanted to do was then combine these two things together, on the one hand that consciousness is not a physical phenomenon, and on the other hand, that in order to get...
Prabhupāda: This is physical, but subtle.
Indian devotee: Śrīla Prabhupāda, I was also a victim of this Vivekananda philosophy for a long time, and my father was very against.
Prabhupāda: What is the philosophy?
Indian devotee: There is no philosophy, but it was amusing... My father all the time was telling me to do some devotional service, I was... No, if I would not do it, I would not get my breakfast. So I had to do it. But now you have your books and...
Indian woman: Śrīla Prabhupāda, I read Ramakrishna when I was fifteen years old, and I became so restless and anxious for guru, and I began to concentrate so much, and I become so God conscious. But I don't know what happened to me by reading Ramakrishna, and I gave up my (indistinct). I don't know what's wrong with me.
Prabhupāda: Eh? (devotees laugh) What is the question?
Prabhupāda: The om word is used in English?
Bali-mardana: Om is very popular in English language for a long time. When they think of mystical things, they think of om. The English, originally because they were in India, they thought to imitate some Indian words.
Prabhupāda: Many Indian words have been introduced in dictionary. And many English words is also introduced. That is natural. (break)
Bali-mardana: ...introduced Kṛṣṇa in the Western world.
Prabhupāda: No, it was in the dictionary.
Bali-mardana: But many people had never heard it before you brought it.
Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: And also the dictionary definition is not perfect.
Bali-mardana: The first time I heard Kṛṣṇa was from Allen Ginsberg.
Prabhupāda: He went to India?
Atreya Ṛṣi: Śiva, Mr. Śiva from Malaysia. He's Hindu I believe. And he's recently come to visit us. Next is Dr. Rulf, he is from Holland. He is an economist and he is working here. I've been acquainted with him through business. And that is Reza. He has been coming here for a long time and he's been chanting.
Prabhupāda: He's trying to be (indistinct).
Atreya Ṛṣi: Yes.
Prabhupāda: So Iranian spiritual culture and Indian spiritual culture. You told me?
Atreya Ṛṣi: Yes.
Prabhupāda: So first of all, what is spiritual culture?
Atreya Ṛṣi: Sufism...
Prabhupāda: That you have to think, how it will be attractive here. Otherwise paste, put into the collapsible tube, then it becomes complete. The formula is there and everything. You don't take... Simply it has to be made very fine pulverized.
Harikeśa: And it lasts for a long time, because the toothpaste Prabhupāda is using now I made in last December, last December.
Ātreya Ṛṣi: Are you happy with it, Śrīla Prabhupāda? Is it good? He made it good?
Prabhupāda: Oh, yes. No, it was not made good because... It is not his fault, the powder was not very fine. But it will be better, nice, when the powders are very, very finely pulverized.
Prabhupāda: The water portion should be abolished. Then it will go not bad.
Ātreya Ṛṣi: If the water portion is?
Hari-śauri: Abolished.
Harikeśa: The secret is cooking it for a long time.
Ātreya Ṛṣi: Yes, yes, of course, it should be dry. Then it won't go bad.
Prabhupāda: If the water portion remains, it will decompose.
Ātreya Ṛṣi: Do you have to use ghee? Can't we use some oil?
Prabhupāda: Oh, yes, you can use vaseline. Ghee is better, but vaseline you can use. Vaseline is available, I think you are not manufacturing vaseline?
Ātreya Ṛṣi: Yes, Iran.
Akṣayānanda: Yes. He's in very bad health.
Prabhupāda: But he has got money. Spending money there?
Akṣayānanda: I haven't been there for a long time, but I just heard about.
Prabhupāda: No, he has got money. How he is spending?
Harikeśa: He has hundreds of thousands of dollars.
Prabhupāda: Where it is?
Harikeśa: Probably in New York.
Prabhupāda: So he does not bring that?
Harikeśa: Yes, he has money all the time.
Prabhupāda: They are paying?
Haṁsadūta: They are paying, yes. So it will have to be dealt with very, very tactfully because for a long time there's been so many devotees here who have just not been engaged. And now someone is coming and he's trying to capture them...
Prabhupāda: Reluctant to work.
Haṁsadūta: ...trying to take account of their time and they become upset. They think, "Oh, now this man is going to take my time."
Prabhupāda: Yes, yes.
Prabhupāda: He is here from the last June. He is not acquainted?
Mahāṁśa: He's only here since about ten days. He's not here for a long time and he's not very forceful in making them do the work.
Prabhupāda: So who will be forceful?
Mahāṁśa: He can be trained. I'm training him.
Prabhupāda: So that training... Everyone is under training; then who will be head? If in old age you have to be trained up, then when they will be trained up? So what is the..., to sit down silently? That's all?
Mahāṁśa: We'll send the parties out...
Prabhupāda: Make. Make immediately program, where to go. So why you are not making?
Prabhupāda: Oh. Thank you very much.
Dr. Ramachandra: I am eye specialist practicing in Hyderabad.
Prabhupāda: You are very qualified.
Dr. Ramachandra: With your grace. So I have been thinking of meeting you for a long time, and when I was told you are leaving tomorrow, then I said I would come and pay my respects to you.
Prabhupāda: Very good. Very good. Thank you.
Dr. Ramachandra: It's our luck that I could meet you. You are a great leader of, religious leader, you see, international. And you belong to order of the Caitanya Maṭha.
Prabhupāda: Yes.
1977 Conversations and Morning Walks
Prabhupāda: He's a good boy.
Hari-śauri: He's stuck it out for a long time in Orissa. He's been there a long time, by himself a lot of the time too.
Prabhupāda: Yes. Yes. He's organizing nicely.
Gopāla Kṛṣṇa: He's very sincere. He follows all the regulations very rigidly. He gets up in the morning, ideal example.
Jagadīśa: He understands the philosophy quite well.
Prabhupāda: Oh, yes. And he is educated. He is B.Sc. He knows Hindi also.
Gopāla Kṛṣṇa: He worked on Hindi translation for some time.
Prabhupāda: Where is that Hindi typewriter?
Prabhupāda: We have finished now Eighth Canto, and Ninth Canto is also at the press. Tenth Canto is already printed, this Kṛṣṇa as the summary of Tenth. Now I have to publish in detail.
Guest (1): We have been praying, Prabhupāda, to Lord Kṛṣṇa that we want him for a long time. Till this movement is fully bloomed and blossomed. So for our sake your body has to last.
Prabhupāda: After all, it is Kṛṣṇa's body.
Guest (1): Yes. But what I said we pray for not for your sake but for our sake.
Prabhupāda: The body is dedicated to Kṛṣṇa.
Guest (1): Yes. And through you we get inspirations. If we go to wrong path we remember you.
Rāmeśvara: Would you like to do that, Śrīla Prabhupāda?
Prabhupāda: Oh, yes.
Hari-śauri: Have you been to Purī for a long time?
Prabhupāda: Oh, several times.
Hari-śauri: I mean in recent years or...
Prabhupāda: No. Recently I'm not going because my disciples are not allowed. I don't wish to go.
Gargamuni: I was here during Durgā-pūjā, and there were thousands of people entering that temple, thousands. I mean... There was just a tide all day long. So I know if we have a temple...
Hari-śauri: That's been going on for a long time.
Prabhupāda: Yes, yes.
Hari-śauri: Even their own religion started like that. Jesus's..., one of his best disciples turned him in.
Gurukṛpā: Actually they are helping us to become Kṛṣṇa conscious by giving us an opportunity to preach about Kṛṣṇa.
Gargamuni: It makes us serve with great..., more enthusiasm, even the demons.
Prabhupāda: That is the way of electricity. Electricity. Some thunder. That is electricity. The word is used, apratihatā. Pratihata means checking. When your devotional service will make progress in spite of checking, that is pure devotion. Ahaituky apratihatā yayātmā suprasīdati. And that is pure devotion. I was attacked by heart attack thrice. While on the ship, twice.
Gargamuni: On the ship twice? Oh.
Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: She was describing that one time they were all looking at this x-ray of one of the patients who had had severe pain. And inside the x-ray they saw that during the operation they had left the scissors and scalpel in the man's body. And all the doctors were standing there laughing, as if it was a big joke. They thought it was a big joke. For a long time the patient had had much pain in the side, and he did not know why. Then they took x-ray, and they found a scissors and a scalpel left inside, and the doctors thought it was a big joke.
Prabhupāda: Then again operated.
Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: Yes, another operation. Then another thing they were describing that there was a patient who was dying. There was no chance of his recovery, but still, in order to get... The man was a big man. So the television was covering because he was an important political figure.
Prabhupāda: Eh?
Haṁsadūta: They all want to go, his men. And the temple is very badly in debt, and it has not had a proper president for a very long time.
Prabhupāda: This cannot be.
Hṛdayānanda: It was suggested that he can preach in the area.
Gopāla Kṛṣṇa: Or collect.
Rāmeśvara: Anyway, for this reason...
Prabhupāda: No why don't you call him to study the whole situation?
Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: Yes, the real point is that the GBC should meet with him...
Prabhupāda: Yes.
Prabhupāda: Oh, yes. This is exploitation of the society.
Girirāja: I know. Since I've been preaching more, I've been able to see how much labor and endeavor is going in just to maintain so many idle people. I know you've been saying this for a long time, and now, you know, I feel the strength to actually change that, that only those who are really sincere workers can stay.
Prabhupāda: Otherwise no need. We need their service, but not by being salaried. That is not good. (end)
Prabhupāda: In the beginning, when I was selling Back to Godhead alone, I wrote one practical businessman, Mr. Bande(?) I think. He said, "Swamiji, why you have made Vṛndāvana headquarter? (laughs) It is not a place for..." (break)
Svarūpa Dāmodara: ...place in Vṛndāvana, they said the selection is ideal. So this type of conference should start from Vṛndāvana. They feel that way, many of them. Yesterday Mishra, Dr. Mishra... He's the head of the biophysics department in the All-India Institute, Medical Sciences. He called me to his home, and I went and we had about half an hour discussion. He told me that he wanted to do this by himself for a long time several years ago. Then somehow, when he saw our flyer, his wife told him that "You've been trying to do like this for so many years, but somebody has started doing it." So she told him "You must join them."
Hari-śauri: Of sweet lime. And then in the nighttime he had orange juice. And then the next morning he passed the blood in his urine. And then again the next morning he took the sweet lime again. But he hasn't had any orange juice since then, so there's been no blood, but his urine is still cloudy. He's still taking the sweet lime juice. But it wasn't there before when he was taking it. So Prabhupāda hadn't had any orange juice for a long time. Parivrājakācārya said that citrus fruits are much too strong for the kidneys, 'cause the kidneys are weak.
Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: Oh.
Prabhupāda: Maybe will take...
Dr. Ghosh: Massage is good, but gentle massage. The object of massage is to improve the circulation. To improve the circulation. So massage should be from below, upwards towards the heart. From below, upwards towards the heart. There is a way, proper way of doing a thing, and wrong way of doing a thing. So the right way of doing a thing is massage... The object of massage is to improve the circulation. And the way is to squeeze the blood towards the heart. First squeeze, squeezing motion. You see every tip of the finger like... So that this swelling will also be reduced if you do it properly. This is called petrissage. Squeezing towards the heart. Every nerve and muscle should be petrissage. And then just like twisting gently, very gently, always towards the heart. Squeeze the blood towards the heart. That will improve the flow and deportment. Petrissage first, then efflurage is like this. (demonstrates) And deportment. Chest should also be just like this. There's hardly any muscle left. And stomach, just like the hands of a clock. From right to left, like that. This is the way, how peristalsis occurs in the intestine. You see? Towards the rectum always, like the hands of a clock. Not this way, anticlockwise. Just like that. Legs too. Similarly, from below, upwards. That is very important. That will reduce the swelling and improve the circulation. Gentle, should be very, very gentle. You know? Left side is more so. And you should change him from side to side. His body shouldn't be kept in one position for a long time. That is increase the hypostasis and increase the... Look at this.
Prabhupāda: Who is taking the...
Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: There's another reason though. The main thing is that this room, the rooms in this house don't have so much ventilation like Māyāpur does. Very good. Prabhupāda is always laying in one room, if he gets air then it's good. Passing air, you know, ventilation. He's been in the same room now for a long time. Change of place is nice. Plus all of the things are grown fresh there, so Prabhupāda might get some appetite. Very nice vegetables grown there, fresh. Anyway, he's thinking about it. He said you will come with him. Prabhupāda quoted that verse. You were quoting that verse that Māyāpur and Vṛndāvana are..., are the same. Gauḍa-maṇḍala-bhūmi? What is that verse?
Prabhupāda: Gauḍa-maṇḍala-bhūmi jebā jāne cintāmaṇi tāra hoy braja-bhūmi bās.
Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: You want a little brahmi oil, Śrīla Prabhupāda, on your head? Will it relax you a little?
Bhavānanda: But, Śrīla Prabhupāda, you've been sitting up now for almost forty-five minutes.
Śatadhanya: I think this is the first time that Your Divine Grace has sat up for such a long time.
Bhavānanda: And also this morning you were making effort to move your legs, which you've never done since I've been here. I was thinking... Of course... Just from my observation, I was thinking that you were feeling a little bit stronger today. And Śatadhanya Mahārāja also thought that you were appearing to be stronger. Usually you're not able to sit up for such a long period of time, and you're sitting up by yourself. Usually you lean on my hand for support. But this morning you're...
Śatadhanya: In fact, we all said the same thing.
Prabhupāda: Hm?
Svarūpa Dāmodara: Does it give any appetite, Śrīla Prabhupāda? Feeling of appetite?
Bhakti-caru: Śrīla Prabhupāda, I cooked some boiled rice, boiled it for a long time, and some plantain. (Bengali)
Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: That's good for stopping diarrhea. I think you should take some, Śrīla Prabhupāda. Instead of taking the medicine, take a little of this prasādam. Is that all right?
Prabhupāda: All right, I'll try to take.
Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: One thing I've seen is that although you're passing stool more, you're not passing out more, too much in sense of total amount of... Urine is less now. You're passing less urine. Stool is coming more, but urine is less.
Prabhupāda: No, that is natural.
Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: That's natural.
Prabhupāda: If you pass stool, there will be less urine.
Prabhupāda: No, one year... Less.
Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: Well, I mean, I asked Hari-śauri. He said that that swelling has been there for a long time, Śrīla Prabhupāda. I've seen it for... (Hindi)
Bhakti-caru: Last three, four days, any blood in the urine?
Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: No.
Kavirāja (1): Prasādam quantity... (Hindi)
Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: Give him the book. He'll see the quantity.
Kavirāja (1): (Hindi)
Bhavānanda: Tell him when the urine was bloody...
Bhakti-caru: (Hindi) That was about ten days back.
Bhavānanda: And tell him that Prabhupāda took allopathic medicine last week. He asked for information.
Kavirāja: (Hindi)
Indian man (1): Next time, when he comes, make arrangement to stay for a long time.
Bhakti-caru: Say, at least about a week, so that he can stay here for about a week. This time he came absolutely unprepared.
Prabhupāda: Turn me this way.
Kavirāja: (Hindi)
Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: Svarūpa Dāmodara is here, Śrīla Prabhupāda.
Kavirāja: (Hindi)
Bhakti-caru: Mahārāja, do you have the urine report?
Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: Can you go in my file under "M"? There's a folder, an envelope, a big envelope.
Kavirāja: (Hindi)
Svarūpa Dāmodara: He said that...
Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: Śrīla Prabhupāda? When you took prasādam today did you find a little taste? Not yet. Did you have any avocado?
Prabhupāda: That was little tasteful.
Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: Hm. You've been thinking about having that for a long time. You talked about it on and off before. Avocado is said to be very good, nutritious.
Prabhupāda: What is the rent of the house?
Girirāja: The rent? It's about twelve hundred rupees, but that's less than one thousand Indian rupees, and it's right on the way to the Paśu-pati-nātha temple, which is the biggest temple in Nepal.
Prabhupāda: Hm. Very famous temple.
Prabhupāda: Yes, because...
Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: How? I don't see that you're diminishing in your strength.
Prabhupāda: Yes, I cannot sit.
Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: But you haven't been able to sit for a long time. You mean you cannot sit up now even.
Prabhupāda: In that also, I am diminished.
Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: That's a fact. Now when you try and sit up, you always fall over to the side.
Prabhupāda: So in case... "In case," no. From the fact I can see that I have no appetite. Then how I can increase strength?
Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: Bhakti-caru, what's going on?
Bhakti-caru: He was wondering about one medicine that has some roots and herbs mixed together and boil it for a long time and just give the extract of that. He was wondering whether that medicine, how I have that medicine... There are different items in it. That vaidyajī already made, mixed it together. So he was wondering about that medicine, how it is, how do I keep it.
Kavirāja assistant: (Hindi)
Bhakti-caru: (Hindi) So he told me yesterday also that there should be continuous prayers.
Prabhupāda: (Hindi)
Bhakti-caru: (Hindi)
Kavirāja assistant: (Hindi)
Prabhupāda: He said that "I want to see you, your, this very much." (?) Still, we can pay him. I'll do. And this... Send him car. (Hindi)
Jayādvaita: The president is Guṇa-grāhī Prabhu. He's been a devotee for a long time. The management is also very nicely going on. (break) You sent Bhavānanda there many years ago when they were in Brooklyn and ordered him to make the devotees happy. And ever since then, they've been peaceful... (indistinct) Even before that. I remember when I first came to New York, when the storefront was there. I came on Sunday, and there were so many different preparations. Haṁsadūta Mahārāja was cooking. And so many different preparations. And after taking that feast I decided that I would not leave—"This is too nice." So they're going on, still very opulent, sumptuous prasādam. And people are deciding that "Oh, this is very nice. Let us not leave. Let us go on taking prasādam." And in the restaurant very respectable people come. (pause)
Prabhupāda: You read some more.
Prabhupāda: Immediately?
Bhakti-caru: No, whenever...
Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: Śrīla Prabhupāda? You want to rest now? You've been talking for a long time. You want kīrtana or not now, Śrīla Prabhupāda?
Prabhupāda: Soft.
Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: Soft kīrtana. Shastriji? You can close curtain? (kīrtana) (end)
Prabhupāda: Consult with him.
Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: Hm. Make up a tour? All right. Very good.
Prabhupāda: Since a long time I have got a desire.
Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: Hm. Prabhupāda's had this ambition for a long time.
Lokanātha: Travel in the holy places. So you'll be doing in...?
Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: Well, we can discuss.
Jayādvaita: Lord Balarāma, He did that. He went to all the holy places. So in the same way, if you can get a little strength from Kṛṣṇa and Balarāma here in Vṛndāvana, then you can... Lord Balarāma was going to all the different places.
Prabhupāda: I give you idea. Where is Lokanātha?
| Page Title: | For a long time (Conversations) |
| Compiler: | Visnu Murti, RupaManjari |
| Created: | 27 of Jun, 2012 |
| Totals by Section: | BG=0, SB=0, CC=0, OB=0, Lec=0, Con=59, Let=0 |
| No. of Quotes: | 59 |