Prabhupāda: When they excuse a saintly person, that is . . . that is their great mercy. Now, according to Vedic law, a saintly person is never subjected to any law. He's paramahaṁsa. He's never . . . rather, the order is he must be given all help that he wants. That is the Vedic civilization. And brahmacārī, sannyāsīs, they should be treated as children at home, so that wherever they go, they will be treated just like children, "Oh, he's my son. He's my dependent." They will treat like that. And they also go to every home, "Mother, give me some food." So he's children, as the child asks from the mother, "Give me some food." This is system. This is civilization. And M.A., Ph.D., and searching after woman, how to induce her, and being searched out in the airport, whether he's a rogue—what is this education? We don't want this education. (break) . . . student life we have seen practically, one big professor, Dr. Brajendranath Shri. So he had another Ph.D. student, and that student kidnapped his daughter and went away. He was so educated that kidnapped his teacher's, or the master's, daughter and went away. Kāmātura. What is that word? Kāmātura.
Śāstrījī: Kāmāturaṁ harṣa-śoka-bhayaiṣaṇārtam (SB 7.9.39).
Prabhupāda: Yes. Everyone is kāmāturam. Prahlāda Mahārāja, millions of years ago, a five-years-old boy, he's stating what is the position of the materialistic person. This is Bhāgavata. (break) . . . education system should be stopped. Rascal, producing rascals and hippies in the university. What is the use of this education? Atheists, putting simply theories, and that is also nonsense, and it is going on in the name of education. (break) . . . paṇḍita says who is paṇḍita. Recite.
Puṣṭa Kṛṣṇa: Mātṛvat para-dāreṣu . . .
Prabhupāda: Eh? Eh?
Puṣṭa Kṛṣṇa: Para-dāreṣu, para-dravyeṣu lokavat.
Prabhupāda: No, no. Para-dravyeṣu loṣṭravat. The . . . is . . . it is moral instruction, what to speak of high education. Means it, preliminary moral education. That is:
- mātṛvat para-dāreṣu
- para-dravyeṣu loṣṭravat
- ātmavat sarva-bhūteṣu
- yaḥ paśyati sa paṇḍitaḥ
- (Cāṇakya Paṇḍita)
This is learned. What is the meaning? Explain.
Puṣṭa Kṛṣṇa: One who sees . . .
Prabhupāda: No, no. He'll explain.
Śāstrījī: Mātṛvat para-dāreṣu. Para-dāra means "every woman." "Who can see every woman like, like mother . . ."
Prabhupāda: Yes.
Śāstrījī: And para-dravyeṣu loṣṭravat. Para-dravya means money, something of others.
Prabhupāda: "Belonging to others."
Śāstrījī: Yes, "of others." So who can see like loṣṭravat . . .
Prabhupāda: That is para-drav . . .
Śāstrījī: . . . rubbish, or like rubbish, cannot take; cannot pick up. Mātṛvat para-dāreṣu para-dravyeṣu loṣṭravat, ātmavat sarva-bhūteṣu: "Every living entity," ātmavat, "like himself."