Prabhupāda: Kṛṣṇa is everything; again Kṛṣṇa is . . . that is . . . what is the verse? Mayā tatam idaṁ sarvaṁ jagad avyakta-mūrtinā: "I am spread all over the universe in My impersonal feature." Jagad avyakta-mūrti . . . mat-sthāni sarva-bhūtāni (BG 9.4). "Everything is in Me," nāhaṁ te . . . "but I am not there." This is called simultaneously one and different, acintya-bheda. That one has to understand. Where there is no Kṛṣṇa consciousness, that is different from Kṛṣṇa. Otherwise, everything is Kṛṣṇa.
Bhagavān: The other religions do not give information . . .
Prabhupāda: We are not talking of religions. We are talking of science.
Bhagavān: Yeah.
Prabhupāda: So don't bring in any religion. A type of religion is made, "Believe something blindly." So that is not our concern. We are talking of the science. If I say that stone is also Kṛṣṇa, is not that the science?
Bhagavān: It's the science of how God's energies are working.
Prabhupāda: Yes. Just like if I say heat is also fire, is there any wrong?
Bhagavān: No.
Prabhupāda: Is there any wrong?
Devotees: No.
Prabhupāda: Heat is also fire. But at the same time, heat is not fire. What is the difficulty to understand? If I say heat is also fire, but it is not fire, where is the wrong?
Devotee: Heat comes from the fire.
Prabhupāda: Yes. Therefore the fire quality is there. Heat is the quality of the fire. Just like I taste sugar. The sweetness is also sugar, and the form is also sugar.
Yogeśvara: Well, they would say: "If stone is also Kṛṣṇa, then why aren't we worshiping all stone?"
Prabhupāda: Eh?
Yogeśvara: Then why don't we worship all . . . here is also some stone. Why don't we worship this?
Prabhupāda: You worship. Because you are rascal, you worship.