Prabhupāda: Now you are convinced that conference is required. You have to convince me; I'll have to convince you.
Guest (3): And I think that it is through those confrontations and through those listenings to each other . . . (break) . . . (indistinct)
Guest (1): If you go to London, I want to go to India, and then we shall be separated. So we must all go both to London and India.
Prabhupāda: Therefore I say that first of all we have to decide where to go. If anyone is satisfied that "I am satisfied with going to London or going to Paris . . ."
Guest (1): But that is the question. Where should we go? If you believe that you must go to London, I believe very strongly I must go to India, and I could then convinced that to me India is London . . .
Prabhupāda: No. As you are convinced that going to India is good for you, similarly, you may change your conviction also, that going to London is also nice.
Guest (1): Yes. But so may you also change your conviction.
Prabhupāda: I may . . . yes, if you can convince me. Therefore conference . . .
Guest (1): If you believe that you cannot be convinced . . .
Prabhupāda: No. I believe you can convince me. If we are reasonable . . .
Guest (1): But then you are searching.
Prabhupāda: Yes. No. My searching is complete. I want . . .
Guest (1): But then I cannot convince you of anything.
Prabhupāda: No. Why not? You have got reason; I have got reason. You have to show me that these are favorable condition in Paris.
Guest (1): But how can I convince you? Because you are saying that you cannot . . .
Prabhupāda: No, no, no. "Convince" means you have to convince me with your reasoning power or presentation. That is not very difficult thing. Two lawyers are fighting in the court. They are convincing. Now the judgment is there. So that fighting means for convincing, not only in law court, in everywhere—in assembly, in Parliament, in Senate house. That is a regular thing. Now the majority is accepting. Now this would be . . . what is that?