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| <div id="Conversations_and_Morning_Walks" class="section" sec_index="5" parent="compilation" text="Conversations and Morning Walks"><h2>Conversations and Morning Walks</h2> | | <div id="Conversations_and_Morning_Walks" class="section" sec_index="5" parent="compilation" text="Conversations and Morning Walks"><h2>Conversations and Morning Walks</h2> |
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| <div class="heading">Krsna-upadesa. This is Caitanya's cult. Whomever you meet, you talk of Krsna consciousness. That's, that is the cult of Caitanya Mahaprabhu. This is genuine spiritual movement. Or the human society's movement. Spiritual, cultural, religious philosophical, scientific, everything, complete. | | <div class="heading">Krsna-upadesa. This is Caitanya's cult. Whomever you meet, you talk of Krsna consciousness. That's, that is the cult of Caitanya Mahaprabhu. This is genuine spiritual movement. Or the human society's movement. Spiritual, cultural, religious philosophical, scientific, everything, complete. |
| </div> | | </div> |
| <span class="link">[[Vanisource:Morning Walk -- April 29, 1973, Los Angeles|Morning Walk -- April 29, 1973, Los Angeles]]: </span><div class="text"><p style="display: inline;">Prabhupada: In India, what is going on as "Hindu dharma," it is a bogus thing. It has no meaning. Just like this Ramakrishna Mission, this Vivekananda, this Aurobindo, this Mahesh Yogi, so many others, all bogus. Anyone who is not going in terms of the Caitanya Mahaprabhu's cult or His teaching, he's a bogus. Anyone. Not only in India, all over the world. At the present moment, the real, transcendental spiritual life means to follow the cult of instructions of Caitanya Mahaprabhu. Otherwise, everyone is bogus. They're simply wasting their time. They have no knowledge of spiritual life. And Caitanya Mahaprabhu's cult means Krsna consciousness. Yare dekha, tare kaha krsna-upadesa ([[Vanisource:CC Madhya 7.128|CC Madhya 7.128]]). (Voices yelling in background) What is that? What does he say?</p> | | |
| <p>Devotee: He's talking nonsense.</p>
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| <p>Prabhupada: Hare Krsna. Hare Krsna Hare Krsna... While preaching our movement we should take this attitude. We cannot make compromise with anyone. Krsna, Krsna, Caitanya... Lord Caitanya's cult is to preach the instruction or talks about Krsna. That's all. Yare dekha, tare kaha krsna-upadesa ([[Vanisource:CC Madhya 7.128|CC Madhya 7.128]]).</p>
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| <p>Svarupa Damodara: Krsna-prema?</p>
| | <span class="link">[[Vanisource:Morning Walk -- April 29, 1973, Los Angeles|Morning Walk -- April 29, 1973, Los Angeles]]: </span><div class="text"><p style="display: inline;"> |
| <p>Prabhupada: Krsna-upadesa. This is Caitanya's cult. Whomever you meet, you talk of Krsna consciousness. That's, that is the cult of Caitanya Mahaprabhu. This is genuine spiritual movement. Or the human society's movement. Spiritual, cultural, religious philosophical, scientific, everything, complete. Hare Krsna Hare Krsna (pause) So you admit these facts? From any angle of vision, if one does not accept this Krsna consciousness movement, he is aimless, bogus. Unless you are convinced, how you can preach? But this is the fact. Hare Krsna Hare Krsna... (pause) While preaching, you must have your locus standi, what is your position. And you must be able to defend your position.</p>
| | Prabhupāda: In India, what is going on as "Hindu ''dharma''," it is a bogus thing. It has no meaning. Just like this Ramakrishna Mission, this Vivekananda, this Aurobindo, this Mahesh Yogi, so many others, all bogus. Anyone who is not going in terms of the Caitanya Mahāprabhu's cult or His teaching, he's a bogus. Anyone. |
| <p>Svarupa Damodara: That is why we ask so many questions to Srila Prabhupada.</p>
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| <p>Prabhupada: Eh?</p>
| | Not only in India; all over the world. At the present moment, the real, transcendental spiritual life means to follow the cult or instruction of Caitanya Mahāprabhu. Otherwise, everyone is bogus. They're simply wasting their time. They have no knowledge of spiritual life. And Caitanya Mahāprabhu's cult means Kṛṣṇa consciousness. ''Yāre dekha, tāre kaha kṛṣṇa-upadeśa'' ([[Vanisource:CC Madhya 7.128|CC Madhya 7.128]]). |
| <p>Svarupa Damodara: That is why we are asking questions so that...</p>
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| <p>Prabhupada: Yes. You ask, clarify it. Be strong in your position and then preach. Harer nama harer nama harer nama... ([[Vanisource:CC Adi 17.21|CC Adi 17.21]]). (pause)</p>
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| <p>Svarupa Damodara: The literal meaning of sutra is a condensed statement, Prabhupada?</p>
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| <p>Prabhupada: Eh?</p>
| | What is that? What does he say? |
| <p>Svarupa Damodara: The literal meaning of sutra...</p>
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| <p>Prabhupada: Yes?</p>
| | Devotee: He's talking nonsense. |
| <p>Svarupa Damodara: ...is a condensed statement?</p>
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| <p>Prabhupada: Yes.</p>
| | Prabhupāda: Hare Kṛṣṇa. (''japa'') When preaching our movement we should take this attitude. We cannot make compromise with anyone. Kṛṣṇa . . . Kṛṣṇa, Caitanya . . . Lord Caitanya's cult is to preach the instruction or talks about Kṛṣṇa. That's all. ''Yāre dekha, tāre kaha kṛṣṇa-upadeśa'' ([[Vanisource:CC Madhya 7.128|CC Madhya 7.128]]). |
| <p>Svarupa Damodara: So it is like the...</p>
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| <p>Prabhupada: Syn, synopsis. Synopsis. Just like in business there are codes, Bentley's codes. So to minimize the expenditure of telegraph, you give one word. From the other side, they will understand. There is code book. This code means that "Receive your letter. The quotation is supplied, that, that...," so many things, one code. You know that? Business codes. There are some stock words. That stock words is simply by two, one word, the whole stock word comes. Sutra means that. Just like a, just like you missing something, as soon as you get one little code, you immediately remember: "Yes, yes, everything is there." That is called code, sutra. Sutra means thread.</p>
| | Svarūpa Dāmodara: ''Kṛṣṇa-prema''? |
| <p>Svarupa Damodara: Thread?</p>
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| <p>Prabhupada: Thread. Thread sometimes missing. In some stock of thread, you are missing where it begins. So you have to find out. As soon as you find out, the whole thread is open. Hare Krsna Hare Krsna...</p>
| | Prabhupāda: ''Kṛṣṇa-upadeśa''. This is Caitanya's cult. Whomever you meet, you talk of Kṛṣṇa consciousness. That's . . . that is the cult of Caitanya Mahāprabhu. This is genuine spiritual movement. Or the human society's movement. Spiritual, cultural, religious, philosophical, scientific—everything, complete. Hare Kṛṣṇa. |
| <p>Svarupa Damodara: Is it like in mathematics, in chemistry, like they call formulas?</p>
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| <p>Prabhupada: Yes. Yes. Just like symbolic: CH, square root, like that.</p>
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| <p>Svarupa Damodara: Like in chemistry, for example, the molecule of Benzine. So you present it just like six lines, but a hexagon figure with a circle inside, they condense a lot of information.</p>
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| <p>Prabhupada: Yes. That is a code, sutra. But the chemical symbolic representation, that is understand by the specialist. But this sutra can be understood by anyone. Just like athato brahma jijnasa. The meaning is: "Now, this is the time for inquiring about the Absolute Truth." So this is a question for everyone. Any intelligent man. Here we are understanding everything relatively. Relatively. Just like when I say: "Father," there must be one son... (break) ...truth, there must be one truth. In this way, this is, this world is relative truth.</p>
| | So, do you admit these facts? From any angle of vision, if one does not accept this Kṛṣṇa consciousness movement, he is aimless, bogus. Unless you are convinced, how you can preach? But this is the fact. (''japa'') |
| <p>Svarupa Damodara: Duality?</p>
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| <p>Prabhupada: Dual... No, relative. Relative truth. You don't understand relative? Relative means you cannot understand anything without the other. That is called relative. Suppose if I say "good man," I cannot understand a good man without having another man, bad man. This is called relative truth. Is it clear or not?</p>
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| <p>Svarupa Damodara: How about the duality?</p>
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| <p>Prabhupada: Duality, not so expressive. Relative. In relation to other. That is the exact. Why duality? There are so many.</p>
| | While preaching, you must have your ''locus standi'', what is your position. And you must be able to defend your position. |
| <p>Svarupa Damodara: Opposite, one opposite to the other.</p>
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| <p>Prabhupada: Yes, yes. Just the opposite. Yes. You cannot understand light without darkness. This is relative. Unless there is darkness, how you can say: "This is light"? So opposite, you can say opposite. Now this, this knowledge is there. Everyone knows. But where is that absolute where the bad and good, the black and white, everything coincides? That is absolute. Everything is there. That is not distinction. Everything is there. That is called absolute. Brahman. That means, Brahman means the biggest. Now when you speak something big, so everything is included. Big means bad and good, everything is included. Otherwise, how it can be big? Big means... Just like if you, when you speak of Los Angeles, so there are so many things, bad and good, in Los Angeles, all included. Is it not? So Brahman means brhattva, being the largest. The largest means it contains everything. Just like the sky. We have got the idea. The sky means it, it, it contains everything universal. This is the idea of greatest. So athato brahma jijnasa means we are now studying the relative truth. I'm studying black. You're studying white. He's studying another, another. In this way. Partial. But what is that biggest thing which includes everything? That is called brahma-jijnasa, to inquire about that thing. Just like you are studying chemistry. We are studying Krsna consciousness. But there is something which contains the chemistry, Krsna consciousness and everything. That is called Brahman. Athato brahma jijnasa. The animal life the subject matter, a small animal, he's concerned where to eat, where to sleep, where to find my food, shelter. This is their business, no other business. They're not concerned with the biggest thing. But this human form of life is to inquire about the biggest. That includes everything. So next code is: Janmadyasya yatah. That biggest thing is the original source of everything, wherefrom everything has come. How to know that? Sastra-yonitvat. You have to learn it from the Vedas. In this way, sutras are given, one after another. What is the nature of that thing? Anandamayo 'bhyasat (Vedanta-sutra 1.1.12). In this way, all codes are there. And go on, searching, one after another, you get full knowledge of the greatest, Absolute Truth. This is Vedanta.</p>
| | Svarūpa Dāmodara: That is why we ask so many questions to Śrīla Prabhupāda. |
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| | Prabhupāda: Eh? |
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| | Svarūpa Dāmodara: That is why we are asking questions, so that . . . |
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| | Prabhupāda: Yes. You ask, clarify it. Be strong in your position and then preach. ''Harer nāma harer nāma harer nāma'' . . . ([[Vanisource:CC Adi 17.21|CC Adi 17.21]]). |
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| | (pause) |
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| | Svarūpa Dāmodara: The literal meaning of ''sūtra'' is a condensed statement, Prabhupāda? |
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| | Prabhupāda: Eh? |
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| | Svarūpa Dāmodara: The literal meaning of ''sūtra'' . . . |
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| | Prabhupāda: Yes? |
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| | Svarūpa Dāmodara: . . . is a condensed statement? |
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| | Prabhupāda: Yes. |
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| | Svarūpa Dāmodara: So it is like the . . . |
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| | Prabhupāda: Syn . . . synopsis. Synopsis. Just like in business there are codes, Bentley's codes. So to minimize the expenditure of telegraph, you give one word. From the other side, they will understand. There is code book. This code means that, "Received your letter. The quotation is supplied," like that, so many things, one code. You know that? Business codes. There are some stock words. That stock words is simply by two, one word, the whole stock word comes. ''Sūtra'' means that. Just like a . . . just like you missing something; as soon as you get one little code, you immediately remember: "Yes, yes, everything is there." That is called code, ''sūtra''. ''Sūtra'' means thread. |
