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<div class="heading">Yes. He is the father of the saṅkīrtana movement. Saṅkīrtana-prāyair yajanti hi sumedhasaḥ. This is the statement in the Śrīmad-Bhāgavatam. This Lord, incarnation of Kṛṣṇa, is worshiped by saṅkīrtana yajña, and those who are intelligent, sumedhasaḥ, sharp brain, they worship this Lord by saṅkīrtana. This is the statement in the Bhāgavata.
<div class="heading">Yes. He is the father of the saṅkīrtana movement. Saṅkīrtana-prāyair yajanti hi sumedhasaḥ. This is the statement in the Śrīmad-Bhāgavatam. This Lord, incarnation of Kṛṣṇa, is worshiped by saṅkīrtana yajña, and those who are intelligent, sumedhasaḥ, sharp brain, they worship this Lord by saṅkīrtana. This is the statement in the Bhāgavata.
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<span class="link">[[Vanisource:Room Conversation -- June 29, 1972, San Diego|Room Conversation -- June 29, 1972, San Diego]]: </span><div class="text"><p style="display: inline;">Devotee (1) (woman): Prabhupāda, is Lord Caitanya always carrying on saṅkīrtana in the spiritual world?</p>
 
<p>Prabhupāda: Yes. He is the father of the saṅkīrtana movement. Saṅkīrtana-prāyair yajanti hi sumedhasaḥ. This is the statement in the Śrīmad-Bhāgavatam. This Lord, incarnation of Kṛṣṇa, is worshiped by saṅkīrtana yajña, and those who are intelligent, sumedhasaḥ, sharp brain, they worship this Lord by saṅkīrtana. This is the statement in the Bhāgavata. And, therefore, we worship Him with saṅkīrtana. This picture, He is being worshiped by saṅkīrtana. Yajñaiḥ saṅkīrtana-prāyair yajanti ([[Vanisource:SB 11.5.32|SB 11.5.32]]). And they are all big men Śrī Advaita, Śrī Gadādhara, Śrīvāsa, and others, followers. That is the proof. Kṛṣṇa-varṇaṁ tviṣākṛṣṇam, He is fair complexioned, but He is always chanting Hare Kṛṣṇa. Kṛṣṇa-varṇam iti, He is describing the science of Kṛṣṇa. These are the statement, and He is doing exactly the same thing. His accepting sannyāsa order is also mentioned in the śāstra. So everything we have to accept through three channels: sādhu, śāstra, guru. Saintly person, they you should accept; guru you should accept; and it must be mentioned in the śāstra. Guru cannot manufacture something. He must quote from the śāstra and then tell to his disciple. So disciple, as soon as he receives a message from guru corroborated by the śāstra, then he should take it as fact. This is the way. Why there should be any more doubt? What is your argument?</p>
 
<p>Ātreya Ṛṣi: There is no argument, Śrīla Prabhupāda.</p>
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<p>Prabhupāda: That's all right.</p>
<span class="link">[[Vanisource:Room Conversation -- June 29, 1972, San Diego|Room Conversation -- June 29, 1972, San Diego]]: </span><div class="text"><p style="display: inline;">
<p>Ātreya Ṛṣi: It's just the conditioning of the mind, the trouble of the mind.</p>
Lady devotee (1): Prabhupāda, is Lord Caitanya always carrying on ''saṅkīrtana'' in the spiritual world?
<p>Prabhupāda: That is different. That is different. Manodhara. Manodhara means those who are conditioned by the mind, their statement is not accepted according to our philosophy. Because he has no value.</p>
 
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Prabhupāda: Yes. He is the father of the ''saṅkīrtana'' movement. ''Saṅkīrtana-prāyair yajanti hi sumedhasaḥ'' ([[vanisource:SB 11.5.32|SB 11.5.32]]). This is the statement in the ''Śrīmad-Bhāgavatam.'' This Lord, incarnation of Kṛṣṇa, is worshiped by ''saṅkīrtana yajña'', and those who are intelligent, ''sumedhasaḥ'', sharp brain, they worship this Lord by ''saṅkīrtana''. This is the statement in the ''Bhāgavata''. And therefore we worship Him with ''saṅkīrtana''.
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This picture, He is being worshiped by ''saṅkīrtana. Yajñaiḥ saṅkīrtana-prāyair yajanti'' ([[vanisource:SB 11.5.32|SB 11.5.32]]). And they are, big men—Śrī Advaita, Śrī Gadādhara, Śrīvāsa and others, followers. That is the proof. ''Kṛṣṇa-varṇaṁ tviṣākṛṣṇam.'' He is fair complexioned, but He is always chanting Hare Kṛṣṇa. ''Kṛṣṇa-varṇam iti''. He is describing the science of Kṛṣṇa. These are the statement, and He is doing exactly the same thing. His accepting ''sannyāsa'' order is also mentioned in the ''śāstra''.
 
So everything we have to accept through three channels: ''sādhu'', ''śāstra'', ''guru''. Saintly person, they you should accept; ''guru'' should accept; and it must be mentioned in the ''śāstra''. ''Guru'' cannot manufacture something.
 
He must quote from the ''śāstra'' and then tell to his disciple. So disciple, as soon as he receives a message from ''guru'' corroborated by the ''śāstra'', then he should take it as fact. This is the way. Why there should be any more doubt? What is your argument?
 
Ātreya Ṛṣi: There is no argument, Śrīla Prabhupāda.
 
Prabhupāda: That's all right. (chuckles)
 
Ātreya Ṛṣi: It's just the conditioning of the mind, the trouble of the mind.
 
Prabhupāda: That is different. That is different. ''Manodhara''. ''Manodhara'' means those who are conditioned by the mind, their statement is not accepted, according to our philosophy. Because he has no value.

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Yes. He is the father of the saṅkīrtana movement. Saṅkīrtana-prāyair yajanti hi sumedhasaḥ. This is the statement in the Śrīmad-Bhāgavatam. This Lord, incarnation of Kṛṣṇa, is worshiped by saṅkīrtana yajña, and those who are intelligent, sumedhasaḥ, sharp brain, they worship this Lord by saṅkīrtana. This is the statement in the Bhāgavata.


Room Conversation -- June 29, 1972, San Diego:

Lady devotee (1): Prabhupāda, is Lord Caitanya always carrying on saṅkīrtana in the spiritual world?

Prabhupāda: Yes. He is the father of the saṅkīrtana movement. Saṅkīrtana-prāyair yajanti hi sumedhasaḥ (SB 11.5.32). This is the statement in the Śrīmad-Bhāgavatam. This Lord, incarnation of Kṛṣṇa, is worshiped by saṅkīrtana yajña, and those who are intelligent, sumedhasaḥ, sharp brain, they worship this Lord by saṅkīrtana. This is the statement in the Bhāgavata. And therefore we worship Him with saṅkīrtana.

This picture, He is being worshiped by saṅkīrtana. Yajñaiḥ saṅkīrtana-prāyair yajanti (SB 11.5.32). And they are, big men—Śrī Advaita, Śrī Gadādhara, Śrīvāsa and others, followers. That is the proof. Kṛṣṇa-varṇaṁ tviṣākṛṣṇam. He is fair complexioned, but He is always chanting Hare Kṛṣṇa. Kṛṣṇa-varṇam iti. He is describing the science of Kṛṣṇa. These are the statement, and He is doing exactly the same thing. His accepting sannyāsa order is also mentioned in the śāstra.

So everything we have to accept through three channels: sādhu, śāstra, guru. Saintly person, they you should accept; guru should accept; and it must be mentioned in the śāstra. Guru cannot manufacture something.

He must quote from the śāstra and then tell to his disciple. So disciple, as soon as he receives a message from guru corroborated by the śāstra, then he should take it as fact. This is the way. Why there should be any more doubt? What is your argument?

Ātreya Ṛṣi: There is no argument, Śrīla Prabhupāda.

Prabhupāda: That's all right. (chuckles)

Ātreya Ṛṣi: It's just the conditioning of the mind, the trouble of the mind.

Prabhupāda: That is different. That is different. Manodhara. Manodhara means those who are conditioned by the mind, their statement is not accepted, according to our philosophy. Because he has no value.