Prabhupāda: Our vision is from the standard of that soul. The soul is there in elephant as well as in the learned scientist. So paṇḍitāḥ sama-darśinaḥ (BG 5.18) means a learned, advanced spiritualist, he sees that everyone is soul. The body, material body, is dress. Just like we are talking with Dr. Such-and-such, not with the dress. We are not interested with the dress, but we are interested with you, person. Similarly, these bodies are dresses, different dresses, according to the price he has paid. According to his work, nature gives him. Prakṛteḥ kriyamāṇāni guṇaiḥ karmāṇi sarvaśaḥ (BG 3.27).
Cāru: Ahaṅkāra vimūḍhā.
Prabhupāda: Kāraṇaṁ guṇa-saṅgo 'sya (BG 13.22). (aside) Find out this verse.
Cāru:
- prakṛteḥ kriyamāṇāni
- guṇaiḥ karmāṇi sarvaśaḥ
- ahaṅkāra vimūḍhātmā
- kartāham iti manyate
- (BG 3.27)
"The bewildered spirit soul, under the influence of the three modes of material nature, thinks himself to be the doer of activities, which are in actuality carried out by nature."
Prabhupāda: Nature. Nature is giving us different body. I am the spirit soul. Because I have accepted natural . . . material nature's protection, I am getting different types of body. This life I have got this body; next life I may get another body. That is explained—tathā dehāntara prāpti. We have to accept another body. Now you are scientist, and then next life you may be different. You may have a different body. Where is that science? Here is the information. But where is the science cultivated in the universities, education? There is no science. But this is a fact.
Guest (2): (to other guest) Well, it's just on five. Do you want to sneak in on the . . .
Guest (1): I think you've answered . . .
Prabhupāda: Give them.
Madhudviṣa: These are, these are preparation which is prepared from Australian milk.
Prabhupāda: Let him take. Yes.
Guest (2): Oh, thank you.
Madhudviṣa: Give a napkin. It's a little sweet . . . it's a sweet preparation called gulābjāmun. It is all prepared just from milk which has been boil made into curd, and then the curd has been fried in ghee, cooking ghee, and then after it has been fried, it has been soaked in sweet water and is very palatable. It's called a gulābjāmun. It is a, a very famous delicacy of Indian cooking. It requires a great skill and art to prepare these. And as our spiritual master said, there is actually hundreds and hundreds of food which can be prepared from this, like the cheese you have there. Even cooking cheese and spicing it with asafetida and ginger, meat taste can be simulated very, very nicely.