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Prabhupāda: "...such things in devotion and love," aśnāmi, "I eat." So one's purpose is served. If Kṛṣṇa accepts something from a person, that is the perfection of life. So there are many things, but today we are observing this ceremony, and the other day we also observed. Six boys were offered this facility of this second initiation stage, and today also, they have come from New York because I'll be going to Montreal, Canada, next week. So they have come and they are... This second process of initiation will be performed as far as possible. Real basic principle is bhakti, devotional service. So far lengthy process, in this age it is not possible. And pāñcarātrika vidhim, just like quoted from Rūpa Gosvāmī, it has made things very simplified. The Vedic vidhi is not possible at the present age. The pāñcarātrika-vidhim means... Vedic vidhi means one must be begotten by a brāhmaṇa and he must have followed the family tradition. Then, according to Vedic rites, he can be initiated or offered the sacred thread. But pāñcarātrika-vidhi is especially meant for this age, that anyone who has little, a slight tendency to become a devotee, he should be given all chance, all chance. That is Lord..., especially Lord Caitanya's special benediction. And He has actually performed this thing. Just like Haridāsa Ṭhākura. He happened to be born in a Muhammadan family, and Lord Caitanya made him the ācārya, nāmācārya, the authority of chanting Hare Kṛṣṇa, nāmācārya, by His grace. This Sanātana Gosvāmī and Rūpa Gosvāmī were rejected from brāhmaṇa society because they engaged themselves as ministers in the Muslim government.
Prabhupāda: ". . . such things in devotion and love," ''aśnāmi'', "I eat." So one's purpose is served. If Kṛṣṇa accepts something from a person, that is the perfection of life.  


So brāhmaṇa society was so strict that if anyone becomes a servant of, of a mleccha, he at once falls down. There are many such social, I mean to say, injustice. And by that, following such thing, the, practically the Vedic civilization is now demolished practically. There is simply fragmental things are there. But Lord Caitanya's principle is very nice, and Gosvāmīs, they recommended, and Caitanya Mahāprabhu said, pṛthivīte āche yata nagarādi grāma. (CB Antya-khaṇḍa 4.126) His mission should be preached not only in India but pṛthivīte, means all over the world. Yata, pṛthivīte āche yata nagarādi—all cities and all villages, all countries, sarvatra, everywhere, this Kṛṣṇa consciousness movement should be propagated. And He has openly said that anyone—doesn't matter in what, which family or in which country he has taken his birth, anyone—ye kṛṣṇa tattva vettā sei guru haya. Anyone who knows this science of Kṛṣṇa, he's eligible to become a Vaiṣṇava or a spiritual master. And He has also ordered that
So there are many things, but today we are observing this ceremony, and the other day we also observed. Six boys were offered this facility of this second initiation stage, and today also, they have come from New York, because I'll be going to Montreal, Canada, next week. So they have come and they are . . . this second process of initiation will be performed as far as possible.  


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Real basic principle is ''bhakti'', devotional service. So far lengthy process, in this age it is not possible. And ''pāñcarātrika vidhim'', just like quoted from Rūpa Gosvāmī, it has made things very simplified. The ''Vedic vidhi'' is not possible at the present age. The ''pāñcarātrika-vidhim'' means . . . ''Vedic vidhi'' means one must be begotten by a ''brāhmaṇa'' and he must have followed the family tradition. Then, according to Vedic rites, he can be initiated or offered the sacred thread. But ''pāñcarātrika-vidhi'' is especially meant for this age, that anyone who has little, a slight tendency to become a devotee, he should be given all chance, all chance.
:āmāra ājñāya guru hañā tāra sarva-deśa
 
:yāre dekha tāre kaha 'kṛṣṇa'-upadeśa
That is Lord . . . especially Lord Caitanya's special benediction. And He has actually performed this thing. Just like Haridāsa Ṭhākura. He happened to be born in a Muhammadan family, and Lord Caitanya made him the ''ācārya, nāmācārya'', the authority of chanting Hare Kṛṣṇa, ''nāmācārya'', by His grace. This Sanātana Gosvāmī and Rūpa Gosvāmī were rejected from ''brāhmaṇa'' society because they engaged themselves as ministers in the Muslim government.
 
So ''brāhmaṇa'' society was so strict that if anyone becomes a servant of, of a ''mleccha'', he at once falls down. There are many such social, I mean to say, injustice. And by that, following such thing, the, practically the Vedic civilization is now demolished practically. There is simply fragmental things are there.
 
But Lord Caitanya's principle is very nice, and Gosvāmīs, they recommended, and Caitanya Mahāprabhu said, ''pṛthivīte āche yata nagar ādi grāma'' (CB ''Antya-khaṇḍa'' 4.126). His mission should be preached not only in India, but ''pṛthivīte'', means all over the world. ''Yata, pṛthivīte āche yata nagaradi''—all cities and all villages, all countries, ''sarvatra'', everywhere, this Kṛṣṇa consciousness movement should be propagated. And He has openly said that anyone—doesn't matter in what, which family or in which country he has taken his birth—anyone, ''ye kṛṣṇa tattva vettā sei guru haya''. Anyone who knows this science of Kṛṣṇa, he's eligible to become a Vaiṣṇava or a spiritual master. And He has also ordered that:
 
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:''yāre dekha tāre kaha 'kṛṣṇa'-upadeśa''
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"By My order, everyone become the spiritual master, and the only duty of spiritual master is to preach Kṛṣṇa consciousness."
"By My order, everyone become the spiritual master, and the only duty of spiritual master is to preach Kṛṣṇa consciousness."


So Kṛṣṇa consciousness is Bhagavad-gītā and Śrīmad-Bhāgavatam. So we are following the same principles and expecting these young boys may preach this Kṛṣṇa consciousness mission more, I mean to say, enthusiastically, because I am old man. I may die at any moment. Last year, practically, I was died, but Kṛṣṇa saved me. So tūrṇaṁ yateta. Let us try as quickly as possible before the next death comes. That is the perfectional stage of life. So we shall now begin our ceremony. If any question...? (pause) So we can begin. Any question?
So Kṛṣṇa consciousness is ''Bhagavad-gītā'' and ''Śrīmad-Bhāgavatam''. So we are following the same principles and expecting these young boys may preach this Kṛṣṇa consciousness mission more, I mean to say, enthusiastically. Because I am old man. I may die at any moment. Last year, practically I was died, but Kṛṣṇa saved me. So ''tūrṇaṁ yateta''. Let us try as quickly as possible before the next death comes. That is the perfectional stage of life.  
 
So we shall now begin our ceremony. If any question . . .?  
 
(pause) So we can begin. Any question?


Student: Is this the ceremony which is often referred to as mantra-dīkṣā?
Student: Is this the ceremony which is often referred to as ''mantra-dīkṣā''?


Prabhupāda: Yes. Mantra-dīkṣā. Yes. The first ceremony is hari-nāma-dīkṣā, and then mantra-dīkṣā. Hari-nāma-dīkṣā, all these boys present, they were, one year before, they were initiated for chanting, and now they are being second time initiated by mantra-dīkṣā, yes. Any other questions?
Prabhupāda: Yes. ''Mantra-dīkṣā''. Yes. The first ceremony is ''hari-nāma-dīkṣā'', and then ''mantra-dīkṣā. Hari-nāma-dīkṣā'', all these boys present, they were, one year before, they were initiated for chanting, and now they are being second time initiated by ''mantra-dīkṣā'', yes. Any other questions??
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"He has openly said that anyone—doesn't matter in what, which family or in which country he has taken his birth—anyone, ye kṛṣṇa tattva vettā sei guru haya. Anyone who knows this science of Kṛṣṇa, he's eligible to become a Vaiṣṇava or a spiritual master"

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Initiation Lectures

His (Caitanya) mission should be preached not only in India but pṛthivīte, means all over the world ---all cities and all villages, all countries, sarvatra, everywhere, this Kṛṣṇa consciousness movement should be propagated. And He has openly said that anyone—doesn't matter in what, which family or in which country he has taken his birth, anyone who knows this science of Kṛṣṇa, he's eligible to become a Vaiṣṇava or a spiritual master.

Prabhupāda: ". . . such things in devotion and love," aśnāmi, "I eat." So one's purpose is served. If Kṛṣṇa accepts something from a person, that is the perfection of life.

So there are many things, but today we are observing this ceremony, and the other day we also observed. Six boys were offered this facility of this second initiation stage, and today also, they have come from New York, because I'll be going to Montreal, Canada, next week. So they have come and they are . . . this second process of initiation will be performed as far as possible.

Real basic principle is bhakti, devotional service. So far lengthy process, in this age it is not possible. And pāñcarātrika vidhim, just like quoted from Rūpa Gosvāmī, it has made things very simplified. The Vedic vidhi is not possible at the present age. The pāñcarātrika-vidhim means . . . Vedic vidhi means one must be begotten by a brāhmaṇa and he must have followed the family tradition. Then, according to Vedic rites, he can be initiated or offered the sacred thread. But pāñcarātrika-vidhi is especially meant for this age, that anyone who has little, a slight tendency to become a devotee, he should be given all chance, all chance.

That is Lord . . . especially Lord Caitanya's special benediction. And He has actually performed this thing. Just like Haridāsa Ṭhākura. He happened to be born in a Muhammadan family, and Lord Caitanya made him the ācārya, nāmācārya, the authority of chanting Hare Kṛṣṇa, nāmācārya, by His grace. This Sanātana Gosvāmī and Rūpa Gosvāmī were rejected from brāhmaṇa society because they engaged themselves as ministers in the Muslim government.

So brāhmaṇa society was so strict that if anyone becomes a servant of, of a mleccha, he at once falls down. There are many such social, I mean to say, injustice. And by that, following such thing, the, practically the Vedic civilization is now demolished practically. There is simply fragmental things are there.

But Lord Caitanya's principle is very nice, and Gosvāmīs, they recommended, and Caitanya Mahāprabhu said, pṛthivīte āche yata nagar ādi grāma (CB Antya-khaṇḍa 4.126). His mission should be preached not only in India, but pṛthivīte, means all over the world. Yata, pṛthivīte āche yata nagaradi—all cities and all villages, all countries, sarvatra, everywhere, this Kṛṣṇa consciousness movement should be propagated. And He has openly said that anyone—doesn't matter in what, which family or in which country he has taken his birth—anyone, ye kṛṣṇa tattva vettā sei guru haya. Anyone who knows this science of Kṛṣṇa, he's eligible to become a Vaiṣṇava or a spiritual master. And He has also ordered that:

āmāra ājñāya guru hañā tāra sarva-deśa
yāre dekha tāre kaha 'kṛṣṇa'-upadeśa
(CC Madhya 7.128)

"By My order, everyone become the spiritual master, and the only duty of spiritual master is to preach Kṛṣṇa consciousness."

So Kṛṣṇa consciousness is Bhagavad-gītā and Śrīmad-Bhāgavatam. So we are following the same principles and expecting these young boys may preach this Kṛṣṇa consciousness mission more, I mean to say, enthusiastically. Because I am old man. I may die at any moment. Last year, practically I was died, but Kṛṣṇa saved me. So tūrṇaṁ yateta. Let us try as quickly as possible before the next death comes. That is the perfectional stage of life.

So we shall now begin our ceremony. If any question . . .?

(pause) So we can begin. Any question?

Student: Is this the ceremony which is often referred to as mantra-dīkṣā?

Prabhupāda: Yes. Mantra-dīkṣā. Yes. The first ceremony is hari-nāma-dīkṣā, and then mantra-dīkṣā. Hari-nāma-dīkṣā, all these boys present, they were, one year before, they were initiated for chanting, and now they are being second time initiated by mantra-dīkṣā, yes. Any other questions??