Prabhupāda: Do you realize that the modern civilization is misguided? (break) ...is the quintessence of Bhagavad-gītā. Yadā yadā hi dharmasya glānir bhavati (BG 4.7). Glāniḥ. The people are misguided. Hare Kṛṣṇa. Jaya. He's Dr. Patel. He's Mr. Gupta, a railway officer. He arranged for our tickets.
Dr. Patel: You are going by plane or by car?
Prabhupāda: Train.
Dr. Patel: You are going also by train? It will be too much strain.
Prabhupāda: No, first-class is all right.
Dr. Patel: Even first-class. Because it takes more than thirty-six hours to reach...
Prabhupāda: No, twenty-four hours.
Dr. Patel: ...by car, by Calcutta from here, no? Or Kashi Express.
Mr. Gupta: Yes, sir. Twenty-four hours.
Dr. Patel: Kashi Express?
Mr. Gupta: Kashi Express. Kashi Express reaches in the morning just at one...
Dr. Patel: I had gone by Kashi Express. It reached... From here it starts in the evening, and there it reaches Allahabad in the evening.
Mr. Gupta: That is Allahabad Mail. That's Calcutta Mail. Kashi Express leaves at 6:45 in the morning with other and reaches at the same time next morning.
Prabhupāda: So we have to get the train from Dadar.
Mr. Gupta: Yes.
Prabhupāda: Dadar is nearer.
Dr. Patel: It must be stopping at Thana also. No?
Mr. Gupta: We had the option of going either on 10th night or 11th morning. But we preferred 11th morning for the same reason.
Prabhupāda: 10th night means?
Mr. Gupta: By Calcutta Mail, or there's a special leaving for Allahabad. There's a special train. We are running Kumbhamela specials.
Prabhupāda: This one.
Mr. Gupta: This one is a regular train. This is Varanasi Express.
Dr. Patel: A special must not have first-class. Has it?
Mr. Gupta: Special has first-class.
Dr. Patel: That special will be better than.
Mr. Gupta: No, it won't be because it leaves on 10th night and it will only go to Naini. It won't go to Allahabad.
Dr. Patel: Isn't it faster...