Prabhupāda: Every salesman must be aggressive. That is a qualification.
Rāmeśvara: They say we are interfering with the right of the person. He doesn't want to speak to us, but we insist that he speak to us.
Prabhupāda: That is salesman's qualification. Nobody is dying for our book, but if we can create market for our book, that is our qualification.
Rāmeśvara: So then they will say, "Then that means you are not a religion. You're simply a business."
Prabhupāda: Yes. From business side . . . religion means we are expert in every way. We can cheat also very nicely, which you cannot do. (laughter) That is religion: expert in everything. Ṣaḍ-aiśvarya-pūrṇaḥ. And Kṛṣṇa says that, "Amongst the cheaters, I am the greatest cheat."
Haṁsadūta: They think religious people should be fools.
Prabhupāda: Yes, but our religion is not that. The most intelligent man can be religious.
Haṁsadūta: They should be fools, and they should be poor. And we are neither fools nor poor.
Prabhupāda: (chuckles) Yes.
Rāmeśvara: We always answer their charge that, "You are saying that all the people are being upset by us, but actually the proof is that we are getting so many letters every day, hundreds of letters, and all these letters, no complaints. Simply they want more information, they want to order all our books. So from our mail order we can see that these people are writing to us because they have been sold books on the street."
Prabhupāda: So these letters are important. You can publish these letters in a book. Those who are ordering our books, they . . .
Rāmeśvara: Also, when we tell them, "Our magazine used to sell two hundred thousand copies a month, now it is selling five hundred thousand, seven hundred fifty thousand, some months one million copies. So that means the public is . . ."
Prabhupāda: Yes. Becoming more interested. So let us go on fighting with Kṛṣṇa consciousness. There is no disappointment. Yudhyasva mām anusmara (BG 8.7). We shall fight and chant Hare Kṛṣṇa. Then everything is all right. We cannot stop fighting.
Rāmeśvara: Actually, one argument that they use . . . they have found an old Back to Godhead article that I think you wrote, Śrīla Prabhupāda. It was about Arjuna's position during the battle of Kurukṣetra, where he had to fight against his relatives. You were commenting that, "So sometimes you may have to even kill your family members for Kṛṣṇa." So they take this magazine article, and they say that, "Hare Kṛṣṇa leaders are teaching all the devotees to kill their parents." So this is an example of how they will distort everything.
Prabhupāda: That . . . you can distort anything. If there is expert distortion, it is . . .
Trivikrama: We can kill our parents even, like Prahlāda.
Prabhupāda: Yes, that is actually required. Prahlāda did not protest. It is a great sin, if your father is being killed before you, if you do not protest even: "Why you are killing?" not to give protection. But even if you do not, then you are not worthy son. So in that way Prahlāda Mahārāja was accused that in his presence his father was being killed. He did not protest, neither he . . . rather, he was ready with the garland: (laughs) (laughter) "As soon as my father is killed, immediately garland the Lord." So that is not the fact. And he is . . . later on, he requested that, "My father was a great offender. So kindly give him protection." So he's not . . . that son. He knows . . . he knew that, "This my father is being killed by the nails of my Lord. It is his great fortune."