Indian man: I am the constant change, the process?
Prabhupāda: You are not changing.
Indian man: Body is changing.
Prabhupāda: Body is changing. This is to be understood.
Indian man: Then who am I? Question is still hanging.
Prabhupāda: That will come next. The first question is this.
Indian man: I am not body.
Prabhupāda: That's all. That is sufficient.
Indian man: Quite satisfying, I am not body.
Prabhupāda: That is self-realization.
Indian man: There is something when a person dies, something minus, this body remains useless.
Prabhupāda: Yes. Therefore you are not this body.
Indian man: Yes, that means I am not the body, I am something beyond body. And what is that beyond body?
Prabhupāda: That is explained in so many chapters.
Indian man: Yes.
Prabhupāda: That is explained, I am... That is... Kṛṣṇa says that the all these living entities... (break) ...that you are the same as God. Mamaivāṁśa. Aṁśa, part and parcel of the... So
- mamaivāṁśo jīva-loke
- jīva-bhūtaḥ sanātanaḥ
- manaḥ ṣaṣṭhānīndriyāṇi
- prakṛti-sthāni karṣati
- (BG 15.7)
"You, you are as good as I am, or you are as good as God. But because you haven't got, developed your mind materially, therefore you are struggling hard with your mind and senses. The answer is there. First of all you understand that you are not this body, but every one of us, we are struggling hard in this material world because I have taken this body as I am, and the mind is there. I am planning in different ways to become happy in this material...
Indian man: That is the plight of everybody.
Prabhupāda: Therefore you should accept the process how to control this restless mind, making different plans, different devices to become happy. That is your position. But this is not according to the ways of the questioner. "I believe in this way." The master will never say. How he can make his own way? He is ignorant. There cannot be, whimsically, as many students there are, as many ways are there. That is rascaldom. That is not. You have to accept the (indistinct). This is a very dangerous answer, that according to the student means, there are different ways of discerning self.