Prabhupāda: Material existence means accepting something which will not exist—asat. Asato mā sad gamaya. The Vedic instruction is, "Do not remain in this material world. Make your progress . . ." (break) Asato mā sad gamaya. But people are so accustomed to materialistic way of life that they are reluctant. That is māyā, very strong. Daivī hy eṣā guṇamayī mama māyā duratyayā (BG 7.14).
It is very, very difficult. Māyā tries to punish every conditioned soul, and as soon as there is some attempt to get out of the clutches of māyā, she becomes still strong, "Where you shall go, my dear son? You remain with me." Yaḥ devī sarva-bhūteṣu nidra-rūpiṇa sam . . . in the Caṇḍī. Yaḥ devī, he is situated, keeping the conditioned souls in dream. He is simply dreaming, "I'll be happy in this way, I'll be happy in that way." And that is mental concoction. He'll be never be happy. Kṛṣṇa said, moghāśā mogha-karmāṇo mogha-jñānā vicetasaḥ (BG 9.12), āsurīṁ bhāvam āśri . . . (BG 7.15). Because he has not recognized the Supreme Personality of Godhead, all his hopes and endeavors will be baffled. So even a person like Mahatma Gandhi, he became baffled.
Guest (1): Yes, that's right. He admitted also.
Prabhupāda: And what to speak of others. His ambition was Hindu-Muslim unity. So that was banned.