Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: Prabhupāda says, in future, henceforward, these people should not be allowed to hold lectures here. Strictly Caitanya Mahāprabhu's teaching forbids. Māyāvādī haya kṛṣṇe aparādhī. You tell them, "You're Māyāvādī. So this is a Kṛṣṇa conscious temple. If you're speaking on Kṛṣṇa consciousness, Vaiṣṇavism..." We don't need their money, neither do we need them to become more prestigious. Rather, they need us. They came here only because of the fact that they're so insignificant that they wanted to be associated with Prabhupāda. Without you they have no substance, Śrīla Prabhupāda. Without your presence the meeting has no substance.
Prabhupāda: (chuckles) Why?
Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: Because you are the only substantial personality amongst all of them. Therefore they know that. We have concluded that they know.
Akṣayānanda: I just spoke. I just told them Śrīla Prabhupāda was one Indian who has done this, so if everyone in India does this a little, then the whole world would become Vaikuṇṭha. And I said, "He has one secret, one śloka from the Bṛhad Nāradīya Purāṇa: harer nāma harer nāma harer nāmaiva kevalam, kalau nāsty eva nāsty eva (CC Adi 17.21)." They liked it very much. They all applauded. I told them in Hindi.
Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: You spoke in Hindi?
Akṣayānanda: Yes.
Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: But they won't change.
Akṣayānanda: I also said that many, many swamis and yogis and sannyāsīs have tried to bring the teachings all over the world. And they have given different versions, just like dhyāna, jñāna, karma, etc. But then I quoted two ślokas, na tad mām abhijānanti, and the other one, yas tas tu aham evaṁ viduḥ.(?) I said, "In this way our spiritual master has taught us. Even though we are foreigners, he has successfully made us come to the lotus feet of Lord Kṛṣṇa. So if you are all Indians and you know Lord Kṛṣṇa better than me, so come and stay with us. All over the world my Guru Mahārāja has established our temples. Please stay with us anywhere in the world and help us, join us at the lotus feet of the Lord." So they were very happy with this.
Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: That's good that you tell this to Śrīla Prabhupāda.
Prabhupāda: Bombay also.
Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: Especially everybody's going to be after us for that air-conditioned hall. It's really good that you're telling us.
Prabhupāda: Be very careful.
Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: Actually, Śrīla Prabhupāda, Your Divine Grace and this movement is the only substantial movement left in India now, in the whole world.
Prabhupāda: Yes. You can have signboard: "No Māyāvādīs visit (?) here." (laughter)
Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: Wow. Just like "No dogs allowed." (laughter) Are you serious about that, Śrīla Prabhupāda?
Prabhupāda: Hm. (indistinct)
Brahmānanda: If they come and they want to hold meetings, we show them the signboard that "We don't allow Māyāvādīs here."
Prabhupāda: Yes.
Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: Yes, on the signboard we'll quote the verse from Caitanya Mahāprabhu.
Prabhupāda: Why they do not hold meetings in Bon Mahārāja's...?
Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: Well, there's a number of reasons. One is that you are not in Bon Mahārāja's place, and they want your presence, because they are inconsequential without you. And another thing is that Bon Mahārāja's place is a little bit archaic, dilapidated.
Brahmānanda: I remember you went there I think two years ago, and (indistinct) Bon Mahārāja there within one room. And he came to turn the light on in the room, and there was no light bulb in the socket. They had to go and get a light bulb and put it in. I mean he doesn't even use that.
Prabhupāda: It is closed now.
Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: Soon he will rent a room here in the guesthouse.
Akṣayānanda: He was at the (indistinct). This morning.
Prabhupāda: In the guesthouse they can remain. But they cannot hold meeting.
Brahmānanda: They were asking me that we should cooperate with them, but they are envious of us. This one woman, the way she was speaking to me, it was quite... She was attacking me. She was so envious. She was quoting Bhagavad-gītā that Kṛṣṇa recommends the impersonal.
Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: So why is she talking? Why talk? Everything is illusion. Then why talk?
Brahmānanda: She said there are two paths. I said, "Yes, but your path is most difficult. So why are you promoting the most difficult path to follow?"
Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: But who cares for her path?
Akṣayānanda: (indistinct) a different path.
Prabhupāda: Never mind. You remain strong. Don't be intimidated by this... That is my request.
Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: Śrīla Prabhupāda? I think we should go to the next room. We will do just exactly as you say. (break) (end)