Interviewer: Would you put those earphones on, Swami? (gives phone numbers again) Hello, you're on the air on KGO with the Swami.
Caller (Gargamuni): Hello, Swamiji?
Prabhupāda: Yes.
Gargamuni: I'd like to ask a question.
Prabhupāda: What is that?
Gargamuni: Why is this human form of life, why is this human life in such a diseased condition with war, pestilence, and famine?
Prabhupāda: These are miserable conditions inflicted by material nature just to remind the conditioned soul that this conditioned life in the material nature is not for you. There is another place where you can live very peacefully. Just like in the prison life there is always infliction of miseries. If in the prison life one is comfortably situated, then he'll never go out, he'll try to live there. So these material inflictions of miseries reminds us that this place is not suitable for us. It is not our place. Our place is back to Godhead, back to home. Therefore these are the reminders that you must leave this place.