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We are recommending no illicit sex, no intoxication, no gambling and no meat-eating. But this is the basic principle of modern civilization. So the foundation is threatened

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Conversations and Morning Walks

1976 Conversations and Morning Walks

When there is fight, it requires real strength. Now their fight is confronting us because they are feeling the strength. Their whole civilization is threatened. We are recommending no illicit sex, no intoxication, no gambling and no meat-eating. But this is the basic principle of modern civilization. So the foundation is threatened.

Prabhupāda: What is this? Now, you appear to be educated gentlemen, you combine, all the Gauḍīya Vaiṣṇava gosvāmīs, and come with me to fight, because there is a world fight now. They are threatened. Their whole civilization is threatened by this movement. That is the position now. Whole Europe and America, they are combining. They are intelligent person, they see that this movement is spreading like epidemic. They have admitted, some of their party, "If this movement is allowed to advance, then some day they will take our government." They have expressed that feeling. And now they are preparing to fight out. These . . . all these fathers of these young men, they are combining together to charge me that I am kidnapping their boys. So it is a serious situation. You should not see simply the fun and claim to belong to Caitanya Mahāprabhu. Now you should come out to fight. Am I wrong or right?

Indian man: You are right.

Prabhupāda: Then do that. Hold a meeting among the Gauḍīya Vaiṣṇavas here, and I will explain the position. Now we should combine together and fight. As soon as you introduce something strong, there will be fight. There will be fight. Even Kṛṣṇa had to see the fight, Kurukṣetra. Dharmakṣetre kurukṣetre samavetā yuyutsavaḥ (BG 1.1). The fight must be there, yuyutsavaḥ. So if you belong to Caitanya Mahāprabhu's party, then you should come out to fight. Whatever done is done, and it is done single-handed. Nobody has helped me, even not my Godbrothers. These American boys, they have helped me. They understood the philosophy and they helped me. Rather, they are criticizing that I am making these American boys sannyāsī and giving them sacred thread. They are criticizing. What is your opinion?

Indian man: I don't think that's a . . . (indistinct)

Prabhupāda: They criticize me. They do not recognize this temple as a Vaiṣṇava temple. They say angrej temple. (laughter)

Indian man: (laughs) . . . (indistinct) . . . there will be whole integration towards Kṛṣṇa.

Prabhupāda: Yes, yes. Jīvera 'svarūpa' (CC Madhya 20.108-109). Why they criticize? We are trying that. Māṁ hi pārtha vyapāśritya ye 'pi syuḥ pāpa-yonayaḥ (BG 9.32). Why the pāpa-yonis should be neglected? So this thing have been done single-handed, now you should come forward, all, combine together. Ye aap log acchi tarah se sochiye aur combined hoiye, aaiye hamare saath me. (You people think nicely and combine together, come along with me.) There is a great fight. We are just planning how to fight. Simply katha vachak hone se kya hoga, pet palan ho sakta hai, isme kuch vishesh kaam nahi hai. (What is the use of just being a preacher? You can earn for your stomach, but there is nothing special in this.) Now when there is fight, it requires real strength. Now their fight is confronting us because they are feeling the strength. Their whole civilization is threatened. We are recommending no illicit sex, no intoxication, no gambling and no meat-eating. But this is the basic principle of modern civilization. So the foundation is threatened. Theoretically they are taking that "If these four things are stopped, then where is our civilization? Where we stand?" Meat-eating, they have all over the world millions of slaughterhouse. So if these millions of slaughterhouse is stopped, then where they stand? They are threatened like that.

Indian man: Their whole set-up, their whole economy is being threatened.

Prabhupāda: The millions of liquor manufacturers, breweries, millions of gambling houses, so . . . cigarette factories. So theoretically, if this movement is successful, then whole civilization is finished. So they are now looking . . . because these young men have taken seriously, so they are threatened and they are making a strong party to fight with us. They cannot safely say that against this Kṛṣṇa consciousness movement they are threatening a charge against my movement or me that I am kidnapping young men. That is their threatening. I am not kidnapping. I am not going to their house to kidnap. They are coming to us. Ye sab position hai. Aaplog sab Vrndavana me gosai log sab hain, humko thoda sa help kijiye. (This is the position. You all in Vrndavana, there are Goswamis also there, help me a little.)

kṛṣṇa-kīrtana-gāna-nartana-parau premāmṛtāmbho-nidhī
dhīrādhīra-jana-priyau priya-karau nirmatsarau pūjitau
śrī-caitanya-kṛpā-bharau . . .

The gosvāmīs, they are śrī-caitanya-kṛpā-bharau. Now prove. They are descendants. Now prove—come forward. Śrī-caitanya-kṛpā-bharau. Simply sitting at home. And in Bengal there is Nityānanda-vaṁśa. What is Nityānanda-vaṁśa? Nityānanda went forward before Jagāi-Mādhāi and He was hurt. Blood came out. Where is that Nityānanda-vaṁśa? Fight between Jagāi-Mādhāi and Nityānanda . . . that is Nityānanda-vaṁśa, simply taking advantage of coming from Nityānanda-vaṁśa, "I have become guru. Give me your money," and sit down. "Let me enjoy life with my wife and children." That kind of Nityānanda-vaṁśa will not help. Come forward to fight. With this fighting is now here. (aside) You can show the newspaper clipping. Bahut big argument ho raha hai. (A big argument is going on to fight this.) First of all they thought that so many svāmīs and yogīs come, all rascals, they stay for some time and go away. Even Vivekananda. (laughter) So this is not a bogus movement; it is taking stand. So now they are threatened and they are combining together, especially the Christian . . .ye dekhiye kitna baseless hai accusation. just see how baseless is their accusation. But in each heading there is "Kṛṣṇa." (break) . . . bring various charges against our . . .

Devotee: Mind control, brainwashing.

Prabhupāda: You should go to see Viśvambhara Goswami also. Panch gavya usme cow mutra diya jata hai, to usi ko prominence de raha hai udhar milk hai usko nahi, ye sabse . . . aur sab gavya chod diya, urine ka taste hai ye sab chal raha hai. ye sab bada fight hai aap log aiye, sahyog kijiye. Aaplog jo actual battlefield me jana chahte hain usko hum leke jayenge. Aaplog tayyar hoiye ladai karne ke liye. Aisi baat nahi hai ki hum nahi ja sakte, wo sab hum . . . aaplog jo bheed hai wo sab tayyar hoiye. (In the pancha gavya, cow urine is added, so prominence is being given for that. There is milk from cows, they are not bothered by all this . . . all the other products from cows they have ignored, there is the taste of urine. All this is going on. This is a big fight, you people come and support us. Those of you who want to go to the actual battlefield, we will take you all. You all be prepared to fight. It is not that we cannot go, all that we . . . you as a crowd be prepared.) This is fortunate that you have come in this moment. So I'll give you this inspiration. Now combine together all Vṛndāvana gosvāmīs. Kṛṣṇa cult is for everyone, either Gauḍīya or Rāmānuja or everyone. Now all of you should come forward. That you do.

Page Title:We are recommending no illicit sex, no intoxication, no gambling and no meat-eating. But this is the basic principle of modern civilization. So the foundation is threatened
Compiler:SharmisthaK
Created:2023-08-05, 11:12:25
Totals by Section:BG=0, SB=0, CC=0, OB=0, Lec=0, Con=1, Let=0
No. of Quotes:1