Brahmānanda: I was reading that in order to go to the moon, it took ten years and the cost was 25 billion dollars.
Prabhupāda: Just see how foolish they are. And again they are trying. Punaḥ punaś carvita-carvaṇānām (SB 7.5.30). Chewing the chewed. This is their business. Horrible civilization.
Kāśīrāma: Mistaking suffering for happiness.
Prabhupāda: Yes.
Ambarīṣa: They are always trying to look for the bright side, but there is no bright side.
Prabhupāda: Just like north of Sweden, there is no sunrise?
Brahmānanda: No.
Prabhupāda: So where is bright side? Where is bright side? Vedic injunction is tamasi mā jyotir gama: "Don't remain in this darkness; go to the bright world." Jyotir gama. (break) ...to create some bright side. He will not be allowed to enjoy it. He will have to die. So where is your bright side? (break) ...for preparing?
Brahmānanda: For the moon? 25 billion dollars.
Prabhupāda: So again I am trying to go another planet. Where is the guarantee that it will be successful?
Brahmānanda: On the contrary, if they failed once, then we should think that they would fail again.
Prabhupāda: Yes. That is animalism. A dog is coming, and you show him some stick or beat him. He will go away for the time being. Again he will come. That is dog. He doesn't get lesson by one. Therefore it is called punaḥ punaś carvita-carvaṇānām (SB 7.5.30). Repeating the same thing again and again. That is animalism.
Yadubara: They actually think that they were successful.
Prabhupāda: Unless they say, how they will adjust so much money spent? What account they will give? They must bluff, "Yes, it is successful." I saw in the Allahabad high-court. One man was condemned to death. I told you?
Brahmānanda: Yes.
Prabhupāda: So one barrister, Mr. Allston, he was pacifying, "Don't worry, I shall appeal and get you released. Don't worry." (laughter) I heard it. I was passing, and Mr. Allston was advising his client. He was morose. "Don't worry, I shall appeal and get you released." (break) ...condemned person was a medical man, and he killed his servant in the surgical room because the servant was implicated with his wife. This is the story. (break)
Brahmānanda: ...English?
Prabhupāda: No, no, Indian.
Brahmānanda: And the man was also Indian?
Prabhupāda: Yes.
Brahmānanda: But the barrister, he was English.
Prabhupāda: He was appointed because he was a big barrister. Formerly any European, he is very big. So he appointed a very big barrister.
Brahmānanda: Oh, he was a rich Indian.
Prabhupāda: Huh?
Brahmānanda: How he could get such a...
Prabhupāda: He was a medical man. Yes, rich, rich. (break)