(break) ...explaining last night that earth, water, air, fire, they have come from Kṛṣṇa's energy. Can you explain how it has come? Any one of you. People may say that "You can say like that, but prove that the earth has come from Kṛṣṇa."
Devotee (1): You said last night... You mentioned a verse from the Bhagavad-gītā, ahaṁ sarvasya prabhavo (BG 10.8), that Kṛṣṇa is the source of everything.
Prabhupāda: That's all right. That is... Your scripture says, but I am a third person. Why shall I believe in your scripture? You prove. You are quoting from your own scripture. I don't take your scripture. You give me practical explanation how earth has come from Kṛṣṇa.
Devotee (1): Well, one has to accept the scriptures.
Prabhupāda: So that you may accept.
Devotee (1): This is what Kṛṣṇa has left here five thousand years ago.
Prabhupāda: "That's all right. It doesn't matter. That doesn't matter."
Devotee (1): ...for your benefit, for everyone because you are part of Kṛṣṇa too.
Prabhupāda: That is your saying. You prove that.
Devotee (1): That's not my saying. That's the Supreme Lord's saying.
Prabhupāda: That's all right.
Indian man or Devotee (2): Like a child has to accept the authority of her mother to know about our father.
Prabhupāda: That is all right, but you give some practical explanation that how earth has come from...
Devotee (1): The only practical explanation we can have or any living entity has is that explanation which his father gives him, the Supreme Lord gives him. He has given us...
Prabhupāda: That is all right.
Devotee (1): ...explanation in the Bhagavad-gītā.
Prabhupāda: Still, vijñāna means jñāna and viveka. Viveka means personal conviction. That is called vijñāna. Jñāna and vijñāna. One knowledge you get from me, and then you practically apply your consciousness that "Yes, what Prabhupāda has said, it is right." That is called vijñāna. One knowledge, accepting blindly from the authority, that is knowledge. But how it is practically made or done, that understanding is called vijñāna.
Devotee (2): We have so many examples of...
Prabhupāda: Give that example. That I wanted.
Devotee (2): We have so many examples of scientific creations by intelligent brain, personalities on this planet, so many things which we can see, like the clothes we wear and the machines we are using in our everyday lives which require...
Prabhupāda: So how Kṛṣṇa has prepared earth? That I want.
Devotee (2): So we can see by studying the nature of the construction of this earth that it is much more intelligent...
Prabhupāda: So how earth is coming from Kṛṣṇa? Tell me that.
Devotee (3): The scientists say that this earth came from gases, but they cannot explain exactly where those gases have come from. That source, that is Kṛṣṇa.
Prabhupāda: No, they do not know, but we know. How in your belly gas is formed? How? There was no gas, but automatically the gas is formed. And therefore sometimes, if it is much gas, then you go for treatment. So this is the practical. The gas is also generating from my body. So as I am an individual, insignificant body, if there is possibility of generating little gas, so Kṛṣṇa's gigantic body, why not gigantic volume of gas? This is the explanation.
Jñāna: The materialistic scientists, they are saying that matter is energy. So we understand if it's energy there must be an energetic.
Prabhupāda: Yes. So how the energetic is producing, this is common. Gas is forming. Just like you perspire, there is water. So one ounce of water may come from your body. So water is coming from your body, so why not from the gigantic body of Kṛṣṇa, the oceans, millions of oceans, come out? This should be the understanding. We see practically that water is coming out from my body. So it may be one ounce or less than that because my body is very small, but Kṛṣṇa's body is unlimited, so why not unlimited supply of water? This should be the common sense. And this body, this body, what it is? It is earth. When the body will be dead it will be earth. So I am spirit soul, a small particle, so much earth is coming from me, why not Kṛṣṇa, the supreme spirit? This is the explanation. God is great, I am small. From me a small quantity of earth is coming, water is coming. Why not from the gigantic body of Kṛṣṇa, so huge, I mean to say, volume of water, gas, and everything as we see it is coming? So therefore Kṛṣṇa is correct. He's correct, but for our understanding we can understand like this, chemicals, the chemicals coming from our body. There are so many salt. And you test the blood or the perspiration. You'll find so many chemicals.