He cannot do it. He simply talks that he is a very confidential devotee.
Prabhupāda: Ah! (break).... Our Lalitā Cācā wants to do? You met him recently?
Jayapatākā: Oh. So his point is...
Prabhupāda: Does he want to do something or simply speculate?
Jayapatākā: He says that he wants to do something and so does some of his people.
Prabhupāda: Eh?
Jayapatākā: But he has a committee. He has a society. One Mr. Bhattacarya, who is a lawyer, and this Śacīnandana, who is a clerk.
Prabhupāda: But that's all right. What they want to do?
Jayapatākā: But they never.... We never spoke to those people.
Prabhupāda: I have told him that "Whatever you want to give us, give us. If you cannot give us, give us in lease. You remain your proprietor, but give us in lease, and we develop it." But he has never replied that. What does he want to do?
Jayapatākā: Before he finalized once, he said he wanted to speak to you once more. But never was the thing actually discussed in detail with Your Divine Grace.
Prabhupāda: It was discussed. And he agreed, "Yes," but his man has different idea. So if you think that he's serious, we can go today sometime. How long it takes by car?
Jayapatākā: It takes about an hour.
Prabhupāda: Hour.
Jayapatākā: But actually it's on the route to Calcutta.
Prabhupāda: Oh. So we can.... But that will be very hastily. That.... The road is all right?
Jayapatākā: That.... The road to his place is all right. There's a shortcut from Krishnagara; if that's taken, then for a while, one kilometer, there's kacā road. After that, there's very, there's clear road with no traffic. Otherwise, if we.... We normally take that in the vans and in the jeep. We save about half an hour. But that way you have to go through one mile of kacā road. Otherwise, if you go by all pākā road, then it's a good road. Just takes a...
Prabhupāda: No, we shall go...
Jayapatākā: ...little longer.
Prabhupāda: It doesn't matter. We shall go by the pākā. Kacā road may damage the car.
Puṣṭa Kṛṣṇa: Is that today or tomorrow, Śrīla Prabhupāda?
Prabhupāda: No. On the way to Calcutta, talking will not be very serious because we'll be busy to go fast.
Jayapatākā: We'd be in a hurry.
Prabhupāda: Hm? Yes. Yes. (break) So what is the use of such men? Why he's keeping these men? They cannot do anything. He gets some pension. Who spends that money? But they are not doing anything. So what is the meaning of this count?
Jayapatākā: He admits that many times he has told some of them to leave their family life and take up some preaching, but they don't do it.
Prabhupāda: How they'll do it? They do not know how to preach, neither they are trained up. That means it is his disqualification. He could not train them how to preach. Even Caitanya Mahāprabhu, He was training Haridāsa Ṭhākura, Nityānanda, "Go there. Preach there. Do that." My Guru Mahārāja was doing that. But he has no power. He cannot do it. He simply talks that he is a very confidential devotee. That's all. He cannot preach. Otherwise Prabhupāda developed this Māyāpura, and he could not do anything. That means he has no power.
Jayapatākā: He should have developed that place.
Prabhupāda: Yes. He simply talks of big, big words. In the beginning, Prabhupāda had no committee, nothing of the sort. That he'll not admit, that he has no power to do so. He's simply thinks that he's very confidential son of Bhaktivinoda Ṭhākura. That's his.... (break) ...nobody has seen his chief disciple? He lives in Calcutta.
Jayapatākā: Yeah, he's not actually a bābājī. He's gṛhastha.