Prabhupāda: So "How can I become guru? I have no education, I have no knowledge." No, no. You haven't got to—yāre dekha, tāre kaha 'kṛṣṇa'-upadeśa (CC Madhya 7.128): "You go and simply instruct him what Kṛṣṇa has said, you become guru." So Kṛṣṇa has said, "Surrender unto Me," I say: "You surrender to Kṛṣṇa," I become guru. Even though I am a fool number one, I become guru, because I am repeating what Kṛṣṇa has said. That's all. I don't require any education. Very simple thing. Everyone can become guru if he simply repeats what Kṛṣṇa has said, that's all.
Mrs. Sahani: So this means that to surrender to Kṛṣṇa, the first thing . . .
Prabhupāda: Unless he surrenders, how he can say others to surrender? Unless one has fully surrendered, if he says to others, "You surrender," that has no meaning. He must have surrendered. Then he can say to others, "You surrender." Unless he has surrendered, how he can take up this business, go door to door and say: "You surrender to Kṛṣṇa. You surrender to Kṛṣṇa"? That means he has surrendered. He has no other business. And what I am doing? I am doing the same thing. I have not given any bribe to these Europeans, Americans, or the anyone. No bribe, no show of gold manufacture. I simply say this, "You just become devotee of Kṛṣṇa." That's all.
Mrs. Sahani: Chanting Kṛṣṇa's name is very essential.