Prabhupāda: (pause) The nature's law is that if you are not Kṛṣṇa conscious, you'll be put into trouble. That's all. The law is there. That is daivī hy eṣā guṇamayī mama māyā duratyayā (BG 7.14). You cannot surmount.
Gargamuni: They're always being harassed.
Prabhupāda: And they are trying to save harassment by nature's law. That is impossible. That is ahaṅkāra-vimūḍhātmā (BG 3.27): rascal, and under false prestige they are trying to save themselves. And ultimately crushed—death. Struggling, struggling. Now, last word—death. Finish. Now, according to your karma, "All right, you just become a tree." Finish. "Stand up here for five thousand years." This is nature's . . . and these rascal scientists have no knowledge of this. "Wherefrom the tree comes? Why the tree is standing there for five thousand years, and I have got good car? Why this difference of position? He is also living entity, I am also." They have no brain. That is also living entity. "This tree is dead." Dead means it has life. So wherefrom the life came? Who made him a tree and made him a prime minister? Who made him? They cannot answer all these questions. Simply blindly following their own mental concoction. Mūḍho nābhijānāti mām ebhyaḥ param avyayam (BG 7.13). Prakṛteḥ kriyamāṇāni guṇaiḥ karmāṇi (BG 3.27). Everything is there.
- mayādhyakṣeṇa prakṛtiḥ
- suyate sa-carācaram
- hetunānena kaunteya
- jagad viparivartate
- (BG 9.10)
Who cares for all these instructions? By illusion everyone is thinking, "My these happy days will go on." And one slap, "Get out! Become a tree." This is all imagination? Mythology? "I am finished." The Russians, they have concluded, "Oh, this life finished—everything is finished." One sense, one, everything is finished, because this so-called happy life is finished. Very dangerous civilization to keep the human society in darkness.