Prabhupāda: ...thakur re.(?) I want association of Vaiṣṇava. You are all pure Vaiṣṇavas. You have sacrificed everything, material comforts, for Kṛṣṇa's sake. That is Vaiṣṇava. Anyābhilāṣitā-śūnyam (Brs. 1.1.11). You have no other desire. You Europeans, Americans, you are born amongst material desires. And when you become free from material desires... Therefore you are all Vaiṣṇava, anyābhilāṣitā-śūnyam (CC Madhya 19.167). So you are so merciful. Where Tamāla gone?
Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: I'm here Śrīla Prabhupāda.
Prabhupāda: So, you are taking care of that conveyance?
Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: Yes, we are, Śrīla Prabhupāda.
Jayapatākā: Because you are a paramahaṁsa, Śrīla Prabhupāda, you are seeing everyone else as surrendered to Kṛṣṇa. But only by your mercy, you are forcing us to serve Kṛṣṇa.
Prabhupāda: Hare Kṛṣṇa. One Bengali gentleman has come from New York?
Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: Yes. Mr. Sukamal Roy Chowdury.
Prabhupāda: So I have deputed some of you to initiate. Hm?
Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: Yes. Actually... Yes, Śrīla Prabhupāda.
Prabhupāda: So I think Jayapatākā can do that if he likes. I have already deputed. Tell him.
Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: Yes.
Prabhupāda: So, deputies, Jayapatākā's name was there?
Bhagavān: It is already on there, Śrīla Prabhupāda. His name was on that list.
Prabhupāda: So I depute him to do this at Māyāpura, and you may go with him. I stop for the time being. Is that all right?
Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: Stopped doing what, Śrīla Prabhupāda?
Prabhupāda: This initiation. I have deputed the, my disciples. Is it clear or not?
Girirāja: It's clear.
Prabhupāda: You have got the list of the names?
Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: Yes, Śrīla Prabhupāda.
Prabhupāda: And if by Kṛṣṇa's grace I recover from this condition, then I shall begin again, or I may not be pressed in this condition to initiate. It is not good.
Girirāja: We will explain to him so that he will understand properly.
Prabhupāda: Hm? Hm?
Girirāja: I said we will explain to the Bengali gentleman just as you have described to us, so that he'll be satisfied with this arrangement.
Prabhupāda: And Dr. Ghosh has his scheme, but actually the scheme is there in the Bhagavad-gītā and Śrīmad-Bhāgavatam. We want to introduce that scheme to our Gurukula. We haven't got to manufacture scheme. Is that correct?
Girirāja: Yes.
Prabhupāda: Let them learn to rise early in the morning and cleanse. This is the first scheme. This will keep their health nice. Cātur-varṇyaṁ mayā sṛṣṭam (BG 4.13). Unless in the human society the varṇāśrama system is introduced, no scheme or social order, health order or any order, political order, will be successful.
Bhagavān: Everything is there very clearly in your books, Śrīla Prabhupāda.
Prabhupāda: A man-made scheme-useless. Sāttvika-yuga.(?) What is that verse? Sattvāvalambi-para-sattva-viśuddha-sattvam... From Brahma-saṁhitā?