Yogeśvara: The scientists claim that they have found a way of making babies more intelligent.
Prabhupāda: That, they are dipping in so many things. Therefore we kick on their face, that say, promise, so many things, but cannot do anything. That is the defect of the so-called scientists. They are promising, "By scientific method, we shall make man deathless." Do they not say?
Devotees: Yes.
Prabhupāda: But have they made him deathless? Simply a dream, that's all. Utopian dream.
Bhagavān: Even if they succeed in one area of doing something they promise . . .
Prabhupāda: Yes.
Bhagavān: . . . they create something that they didn't want to. They create some other problem that they didn't expect.
Prabhupāda: What they have created? They are creating . . . but still dependent. Suppose they have created this horseless carriage. Now they are crying, "Where is the petrol? Where is the petrol?" So if God does not supply petrol, then all these horseless carriage will be pieces of tin. That's all.
Puṣṭa Kṛṣṇa: Māyā-sukhāya.
Prabhupāda: Can you create petrol?
Bhagavān: No.
Prabhupāda: Then? What is the value of your this horseless carriage? You are dependent on God. What you have created? And what you can do? You can create war only to fight, man to man, and when you are in danger, then you go to church—"God save us. God save us." That you can create. And as far as peacefully living, accepting God as the Supreme, you can create war. That's all.