Puṣṭa Kṛṣṇa: "Anyone who is steady in his determination for the advanced stage of spiritual realization and can equally tolerate the onslaughts of distress and happiness is certainly a person eligible for liberation."
M. Deshimaru: (French)
Pṛthu-putra: He says so we then just have to practice now.
Prabhupāda: Yes. Goal must be fixed up, practice must be there, and one must be fixed up. Then it will be . . .
M. Deshimaru: (French)
Pṛthu-putra: He says it's very simple.
Prabhupāda: Yes, it is simple. It is simple. First thing to know that, "I am not this body." Because within this body there is the living force. I am that living force. Then he will understand that there is living force in this big cosmic gigantic manifestation. There is a living force. So what is the relationship with that living force and this living force? Then when it is understood that, "Living force is great, and I am small," then what is my duty? Here we see that the great takes service from the small. Therefore my business is to serve the great. That is final. In three lines you can understand the whole truth, provided you understood. But if you become rigid to your understanding, own understanding, then it is very difficult. Otherwise it is very simple living . . . you are a living force. There is no doubt. Is there any doubt you are a living force?
M. Deshimaru: (French)
Pṛthu-putra: No, he has no doubt.
Prabhupāda: Then there must be one living force for the whole cosmic manifestation. So He is also individual, I am also individual. But He is great; I am small. The small business is to serve the great. If the small falsely thinks himself that he is as great, that is ignorance. So one has to get out of this ignorance that he is thinking falsely that he is as great as the big. Then he is in fixed up. Yes. Then further progress.