Prabhupāda: Our devotees go to Swami Nārāyaṇa?
Indian man (4): Yes, they go. Here our devotees, they went to Mombassa for . . . (indistinct) . . . of Lord Caitanya Mahāprabhu. When I was not there, all of them went to Swami . . .
Prabhupāda: These things should be stopped. They leave their own temple and go to Swami Nārāyaṇa temple? Stop.
Indian man (4): They likes their lunch. They go for lunch. Yes, that's true. All of them went without asking me. About five, six devotees, immediately from here went to Swami Nārāyaṇa.
Prabhupāda: So this should be rectified.
Indian man (4): And their theory is that . . . I asked Pramukha Swami that "Why you have put this? Why you say to your disciple that we should not see the face of the woman?" He said that "We should avoid." But I said, "Well, okay, when you are walking on the road automatically you will see the ladies." He said, "We turn our face to one side." I said, "First you have seen the woman. Then you are turning. (laughter) You will look further. You have not seen the women. You have no sense, you know."
Prabhupāda: These are all bogus things. One should train himself that matravāt para-dareṣu: all women, "my mother." Then it will be possible to live . . . Therefore the etiquette is to address every woman, "Ma." Ma, mother. That is the etiquette.
Brahmānanda: You say like "Mother Rukmiṇī"? There's a devotee named Rukmiṇī. You say, "Mother Rukmiṇī"? How do you address a woman? Do you say "Mother," and then the name of the devotee?
Prabhupāda: No. "Mother," simply.
Brahmānanda: Just "Mother."
Prabhupāda: Yes. They should be addressed "Mother." That will train.
Indian man (4): In our Indian culture they don't call the name of the mother never, children don't.
Prabhupāda: No. "Mother," simply "mother," that's all. And if the woman treats man as son, then it is all right. It is safe.
Indian lady (3): We got a very sweet sound. Everything we use "ji." "Matāji," "pitaji," "brataji," "bahinji."
Prabhupāda: Or . . . And the woman says "beta." That's all right.