Yaśodā-nandana: "Because the last change, at death, the last transmigration to another body, because we cannot see according to our scientific experience . . ."
Prabhupāda: So you die, what you will see? Your eyes are taken away. What you will see? You say: "I die." Then what you will see after death? A dead man has got eyes. Can he see?
Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: Then they say: "How have you seen, that you are telling us what will happen?"
Prabhupāda: Seen by intelligence. (break) We are accepting everything like that.
Devotee: So they will say: "We accept there is a change of bodies. So then life is simply changing bodies. There is no more than this, simply . . ."
Prabhupāda: No, there is stoppage of change of body when you . . .
Devotee: How so?
Prabhupāda: How you . . . how you know? You are a rascal. What do you know? You learn it. You are rascal. What you know? You become intelligent. Tad-vijñānārthaṁ sa gurum evābhigacchet (MU 1.2.12). You are a rascal. What do you know? The difficulty is that you are rascal; you want to take the position of a learned man. And that is your fault. You do not accept your position, that you are a rascal.
Devotee: So first we must . . .
Prabhupāda: Yes.
Devotee: . . . they must become a little humble.
Prabhupāda: Yes. Tad viddhi praṇipātena paripraśnena sevayā (BG 4.34).
Svarūpa Dāmodara: They must know that every knowledge-acquiring process requires certain conditions to be fulfilled in order to understand it, that those conditions have to be acquired. Otherwise it's not possible.
Prabhupāda: So that is the difficulty at the present . . . a rascal is arguing. What is the meaning of his argument? He's a rascal. It has no meaning.