Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: It seems like that division was simply spiteful.
Prabhupāda: That is politics.
Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: There was no purpose to it.
Prabhupāda: No.
Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: What could England gain from the separation?
Prabhupāda: Gain means they are now finished. They have gained this. They have no prestige, no money.
Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: What was their gain from dividing India and Pakistan?
Prabhupāda: Oh, that, that is enviousness.
Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: Yes. Just spiteful enviousness.
Prabhupāda: Enviousness. Just like, you like..., who has done something wrong to you, you like to do some wrong, harm.
Hari-śauri: That was Churchill? Churchill's policy?
Prabhupāda: At that time not Churchill. Attlee, Attlee was Prime Minister.
Brahmānanda: In Africa, Nehru, he was instructing the African leaders also how to get...
Prabhupāda: Freedom.
Brahmānanda: Freedom. So they all allowed the Indian example. So the British, they were very resentful against the Indians.
Prabhupāda: Yes. Now British making "Drive away. Drive away the Indians."
Brahmānanda: They became the leaders of the independence.
Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: Even now they are still resentful.
Prabhupāda: Yes.
Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: Even now they're trying to drive them out of England.
Prabhupāda: Eh? Oh, yes. They're offering some compensation, that "Take some money and go away." Indians are prosperous in England.