Prabhupāda: Who were..., was present all through in the meeting?
Akṣayānanda: Rāma-Kṛṣṇa Bajaj was there. Śrīmān Nārāyaṇa.
Prabhupāda: No, you were there?
Akṣayānanda: I was there.
Prabhupāda: So what the gosvāmīs said?
Akṣayānanda: Well, last night they didn't speak anything. They just heard our film and lecture. That's all. They didn't speak anything last night. Actually they are very impressed.
Prabhupāda: Who was impressed?
Akṣayānanda: All the people. They all...
Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: Prabhupāda's asking about the Vṛndāvana gosvāmīs, Puruṣottama Gosvāmī, Viśvambhara Gosvāmī...
Akṣayānanda: Oh, I see. No, they were not there.
Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: No, but they were there in the afternoon. You didn't see them, but they were there.
Akṣayānanda: Oh, I see. We didn't stay all through in the afternoon.
Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: Prabhupāda's point is that all of the gosvāmīs of Vṛndāvana were attending.
Akṣayānanda: What did they say to Prabhupāda.
Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: No, they're attending, Bon Mahārāja, so that means the whole of Vṛndāvana has become Māyāvādī, because they're all attending this meeting. Our men should not attend this meeting any more, Śrīla Prabhupāda.
Prabhupāda: No, just see the, how they have functioned. It is our place. We should guard. So, and all the men were accommodated in their room?
Akṣayānanda: Yes.
Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: They could all fit in the meeting room?
Akṣayānanda: Yes.
Prabhupāda: And who was presiding?
Akṣayānanda: The Aurobindo.
Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: That guy's a pakka Māyāvādī. That Aurobindo man?
Prabhupāda: Aurobind.
Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: Yes. He had a big argument with Brahmānanda. Not a big argument, but he was challenging Brahmānanda that "Kṛṣṇa means the divine consciousness. Kṛṣṇa is not a person. He is the... It is divine consciousness."
Prabhupāda: Māyāvāda.
Akṣayānanda: I have a plan, Prabhupāda. Myself and Bhakti-prema Swami can go there and sit, and if we hear any discrepancies, if we are given a chance afterwards, which we can arrange, to speak something, then we can rectify—in a gentlemanly way, of course. We can rectify. If we sit there, at least we know that they'll be careful what they say. And he can catch any finer points that I would miss, 'cause it's all in Hindi.
Prabhupāda: They are speaking in Hindi.
Akṣayānanda: Everything's in Hindi, the whole thing. No English whatsoever.
Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: Then there's no chance of our men becoming...
Akṣayānanda: Our men can't understand anything.
Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: That's a good advantage.
Akṣayānanda: But for the purpose of maintaining our proper position, we can sit there and hear what they're saying, and when an opportunity is there we can rectify.
Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: I think Bhakti-prema may agree with them.
Akṣayānanda: No, no, he's... No. No, no
Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: He used to be a Māyāvādī.
Akṣayānanda: Yes. But he understands fully this philosophy and accepts it.
Prabhupāda: So this is the position. The whole Vṛndāvana is full of Māyāvādīs. We have to be very, very cautious and careful. I was there. That Brahmānanda protested against that Aurobindo. And then "Don't speak of Gītā."
Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: Yes, that's what they told him.
Jayādvaita: They shouldn't speak of Gītā. They should speak of whatever other thing they want.
Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: Then why call it Gītā-pratiṣṭhāna?
Jayādvaita: That's Prabhupāda's premise. He's establishing Bhagavad-gītā.
Prabhupāda: Eh?
Jayādvaita: The actual establishment of Bhagavad-gītā is being done by Your Divine Grace. They should admit that "We have our philosophy, but as far as Bhagavad-gītā goes, Śrīla Prabhupāda is establishing it all over the world. We have something else, our own idea." They can say that.
Prabhupāda: Now find out the way how to stop this class of men speaking in our halls.
Akṣayānanda: That's not difficult. We simply... We conduct our own meetings, that's all, Bhaktivedanta Institute.
Prabhupāda: Tamāla Kṛṣṇa?
Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: Well, one thing is that in Bombay... I mean we really don't have a very attractive hall here, but in Bombay we have the most attractive air-conditioned hall of any place that has a religious temple. All of these people will want to speak in our hall. Not only these people will want to speak in our hall, but all of the nonsense theater people will want to perform there.
Prabhupāda: So we must charge.
Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: Even if we charge, they're going to speak nonsense. If we don't mind speaking nonsense, then it's all right. Otherwise, just like Shubhalakshmi, she may want to give some concert in our hall as a benefit. But she's going to simply sing nonsense.
Prabhupāda: Yes. Bhavānanda? Where is Bhavānanda?
Bhavānanda: Yes, Śrīla Prabhupāda.
Prabhupāda: So, if they pay, we shall allow?
Bhavānanda: I don't think so, Śrīla Prabhupāda. Just like yesterday, I was noticing in their afternoon meeting, they had microphone, and you could hear the speakers outside. I was thinking that this Māyāvādī... Someone is speaking Māyāvādī philosophy, it's polluting the boys. Even you don't understand Hindi, the sound vibration itself is polluting. You once told me, Śrīla Prabhupāda, that to even hear Sanskrit Śrīmad-Bhāgavatam from the mouth of a Māyāvādī, it will poison you. Even you don't understand, just the sound vibration coming from that source is polluting. So what is the necessity for us to rent out our facility to them?
Prabhupāda: Tamāla Kṛṣṇa?
Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: Yes. Well, the point is that we have not built these temples for profit-making basis. We have built these temples to demonstrate to the world an ideal, perfect Kṛṣṇa consciousness. So if we are going to allow these people to come here, that means we're compromising. Then we should have gone into business...
Prabhupāda: Just like to take advertisement in the magazine. Eh?
Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: Yes. It's the same thing. We're trying to make something ideal. We don't care if anybody does join or doesn't join, but our business is to show the perfect ideal.
Prabhupāda: Jayādvaita?
Jayādvaita: I agree. This...
Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: Just like our Back to Godhead magazine. For a while it was becoming very compromised. Actually it was becoming a little compromised. And just because we wanted... The editors were thinking that they should make it more popular, more acceptable. But our conclusion of all the GBC men was: "Popular or not, we are trying to present the ideal for the topmost men. There must be some ideal institution in the world." So we should keep it pure. And those who want the pure product, they will come and take. And others, at least they will know this is pure.
Jayādvaita: Everybody else is already a hodgepodge, so they'll allow anyone to speak because they don't have any scruples. But if we are very strict, if we don't allow anyone who's not strictly following...
Prabhupāda: Where is Brahmānanda?
Jayādvaita: Brahmānanda? Brahmānanda is resting.
Prabhupāda: So, I am on the deathbed. I may go away at any moment. Then... Now it is up to you to give protection to the sanctity of our institution. Who else is there from the GBC?
Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: Svarūpa Dāmodara, Jagadīśa.
Prabhupāda: Svarūpa Dāmodara?
Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: He's not here right now, but they are here in Vṛndāvana.
Prabhupāda: He has gone to Delhi?
Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: He came back last night.
Prabhupāda: Oh. So think over. I am unable to do now. I can simply give you warning. It is very dangerous. Hm?