Indian man (1): Swamiji, yeh jo havan karta hai to, (Swamiji, this sacrifice that they do,) so cheat everybody, I mean, get all the members and live on that. (break)
Indian man (2): Where does it have its place in Kṛṣṇa consciousness?
Prabhupāda: Oṁkāra is . . . oṁkāra is sound representation of Kṛṣṇa. One who is unable to chant Kṛṣṇa, for them oṁkāra. Because there are many envious persons—they won't chant Kṛṣṇa—therefore Kṛṣṇa has given them oṁkāra.
Indian man (2): And the swastika?
Prabhupāda: Praṇavaḥ. Praṇavaḥ sarva-vedeṣu. It is said in the Bhagavad-gītā, raso 'ham apsu kaunteya prabhāsmi śaśi sūryayoḥ, praṇavaḥ sarva-vedeṣu (BG 7.8).
Indian man: . . . (indistinct)
Prabhupāda: Hare Kṛṣṇa.
Indian man (2): Swastika?
Prabhupāda: Swastika is also there, Vedic mark. Especially for the impersonalists. But we take direct, beautiful Kṛṣṇa, and worship Him.