Dr. Patel: Param Brahman is akṣara.
Prabhupāda: Akṣara? First of all try to understand. Akṣara... Akṣara means, "that does not fall down." That is akṣara. Akṣara and kṣara. The spiritual world is akṣara, and this material world is kṣara. So the living entities or God in the spiritual world, they are all akṣara. And in the material world we are all kṣara. Therefore akṣaram paramaṁ brahma. The Supreme...
Chandobhai: Svabhāvo 'dhyātmam.
Prabhupāda: Svabhāvam.
Dr. Patel: Sva means "own."
Prabhupāda: Eh?
Dr. Patel: Bhāva means...? Bhāva (Gujarati)? Essence, essence.
Prabhupāda: Sva-bhāvaḥ means nature.
Dr. Patel: Nature. Sva-bhāvaḥ...
Chandobhai: Adhyātmam.
Dr. Patel: Adhi-ātma. That is the...
Chandobhai: That is real bhāva.
Prabhupāda: Adhyātma. Adhyātma means bodily and mentally.
Chandobhai: Ah, bodily and mentally, yes.
Dr. Patel: Adhyātma? Bodily and mentally?
Prabhupāda: Yes.
Chandobhai: Mentally. Spiritually... Inner existence.
Prabhupāda: No. Adhyātmam. Adhyātma. Ātma means body, mind and the soul, but here adhyātma means the body and the mind. That is material nature. The body and mind is made of material nature.