Prabhupāda: Or they should be separated. Otherwise, it will be bad example, and all restrictions will be broken.
Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: If they don't change their mentality, then they should live separately, do their own society.
Prabhupāda: And they'll do that. (japa) That sahajiyā tendency is very easy to take up.
Hari-śauri: It seems like it's an inherent thing in...
Prabhupāda: Thinking of Rādhā-Kṛṣṇa līlā, that is in liberated stage, not in the conditioned stage.
Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: I could never understand, Śrīla Prabhupāda, why, I was always wondering why in all of your books you're always blasting so much time on the sahajiyās, and I was not.... Now I see why, because the tendency is so easy. I could never, I'd always think, "Why is Prabhupāda saying so much? Because they're only in India."
Rāmeśvara: He's thinking that this is a small group.
Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: Yes, in India, but now I see it's an easy mentality for anyone's mind that can be adopted. That's why Prabhupāda was stressing.
Rāmeśvara: And as our movement gets more and more members, there will be more and more people who will be exhibiting this sahajiyā tendency.
Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: That's why it's in every book Prabhupāda speaks about it without fail.
Prabhupāda: Anyway, keep your movement very pure. You don't mind if somebody goes away. Don't mind. But we must keep our principles pure.
Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: I always remember that you said that in the battle sometimes some men may be lost.
Prabhupāda: Yes, that is natural.
Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: Natural. Of course we don't want to lose men, but it's natural.
Rāmeśvara: Śrīla Prabhupāda, when the devotee is in the original relationship with Kṛṣṇa, his siddha-deha, why is it that he sometimes changes his original rasa with Kṛṣṇa?
Prabhupāda: Hm?
Rāmeśvara: Each one of us has an original relationship with Kṛṣṇa, some as plant, some as tree, some as cow, some as cowherd boy. So if that is re-established, why should the devotee desire to change it?
Prabhupāda: Well, that is spiritual kingdom. You can change if you like.
Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: It is not static, Prabhupāda once explained. Love is not static.
Prabhupāda: Generally, it is not changed. Just like Mother Yaśodā, she's mother all the time, eternally.
Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: The question came in Bombay two or three years ago. Prabhupāda said that it is not static. You can have (inaudible).
Hari-śauri: I always understood before that the rasa was fixed, but that within that rasa one may take different..., one may take a different line.
Prabhupāda: That will be revealed when you are liberated. Why you are bothering now?
Rāmeśvara: That's the point.
Prabhupāda: A patient is thinking, "How shall I dance when I become healthy?" First of all, rascal, become healthy, then talk of all this. The rascals are thinking like that. You are patient; first of all cure your disease, material disease. Then talk of all this. Utopian. "When I will get rich, how I shall treat.... I shall.... Then my wife is disobedient and I shall kick her like this," (laughter) and as soon as he kicked on the earthen pots, all broken. Then he, "Oh, then my.... All prospects have gone." You know this story?
Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: What was in the pot?
Prabhupāda: That.... A potter, potter boy, he had got some earthen pots selling. So he was dreaming, that "By selling this earthen pot, I'll make so much profit. Then I shall purchase another batch, I shall make profit. In this way, I shall be millionaire. Then I shall marry, and my wife must be very obedient. Otherwise I shall kick." So in this way, he kicked over the pots and (laughs) all of them broken.
Rāmeśvara: And in the end, nothing.
Prabhupāda: That's all.
Devotee: So by his dreaming he, he...
Prabhupāda: Yes, first of all be rich man, then do all things, how you shall kick your wife. This is going on. Caitanya Mahāprabhu said that "My Guru Mahārāja found Me rascal number one; therefore he ordered, 'You cannot study Vedānta. You chant Hare Kṛṣṇa.' " They will not read this portion. That Caitanya Mahāprabhu, He posed Himself as a rascal.