Prabhupāda: He wanted a certain type of life. So nature gives him. "All right, take this body." He desires in a certain way, means he's associating with the quality of nature in a method, and according to that association, he's getting a particular type of body. Mind, mind is the creative force. Thinking. Thinking, feeling, willing. These are the psychological functions. So, first of all, thinking. Then he develops to work. And it is work you get a particular type of situation. (Break) One enters into the body of a pig. Then he'll have to go under the evolutionary process. Just like if you, if you are on the topmost staircase. Somehow or other you fall down. Then again you have to go, step by step. This is the... The steps are always there. Not that the steps are created for you. No. The steps are already there.
Devotee: Śrīla Prabhupāda, it is dirty.
Prabhupāda: It is loose. On account of hastiness, I could not properly set up.
Svarūpa Dāmodara: Some birds, Śrīla Prabhupāda, like the minaḥ...?
Prabhupāda: Minaḥ, yes.
Svarūpa Dāmodara: They can be taught to say something. So if they are taught to chant Hare Kṛṣṇa...,
Prabhupāda: Oh, yes.
Svarūpa Dāmodara: ...then are this, this is a good service?
Prabhupāda: Yes. Little service. By hearing Hare Kṛṣṇa mantra, he'll be elevated.
Svarūpa Dāmodara: But the bird doesn't know that he's chanting...
Prabhupāda: No, he doesn't know.
Brahmānanda: Caitanya Mahāprabhu, He could teach animals the chanting of the names of...
Prabhupāda: Yes. Caitanya Mahāprabhu can do everything. He can deliver anyone without chanting. For Him, there is no condition. So this morning, I could not wash my face. So therefore, the cookies may be distributed to the devotees. I have not washed my face, you see. Harer nāma harer nāma... (CC Adi 17.21). (end of recording)