Rāmeśvara: And we take our knowledge from Śrīla Vyāsadeva.
Trivikrama: And here also, Śrīla Prabhupāda, in the ocean, they're surfing, extreme cold.
Rādhāvallabha: It's so cold that they sit on the water and they just tremble.
Prabhupāda: That is also another punishment, voluntary.
Hari-śauri: Everybody's doing tapasya, but for their own cause.
Prabhupāda: Hm? Yes. Ugra-karma, ferocious activities. (break)
Rādhāvallabha: ...people also do that. They wake up at two or three in the morning and drive and stand in the water for eight or ten hours, just freezing, waiting to catch a fish.
Candanācārya: For sport.
Rādhāvallabha: Just for fun, not even for eating.
Candanācārya: There are some fishermen that spend six months out of the year far out at sea just fishing. They sleep only three or four hours a day. They don't see any other people. They just live together on a big boat.
Bharadvāja: So the only way to beat that cycle is ajñāta-sukṛti?
Prabhupāda: Why ajñāta? Why not jñāta? You rascal, you take Kṛṣṇa conscious. Why ajñāta? Be informed. This is the only way.
Bharadvāja: He can take it directly without having performed some pious activities?
Prabhupāda: He'll take.... No, if he accepts, that is pious. And Kṛṣṇa comes personally to canvass, "You rascal, take this and be happy." But he'll not do. Although it takes millions of years to come to that understanding, Kṛṣṇa personally comes: "You take it. I assure you, I shall give you all protection," but they'll not take it.
Bharadvāja: To everyone?
Prabhupāda: Yes. When He comes here, He comes for everyone. When He teaches Bhagavad-gītā, is it for Arjuna? Everyone. (break) ...play is not distinct in the record.
Kṛṣṇa-kānti: Not distinct enough? I can make it louder.
Prabhupāda: Harer nāma, harer nāma (CC Adi 17.21).
Indian (devotee?): Prabhupāda, do you want me to send it to you?
Prabhupāda: Eh? You have translated?
Indian: Yes, I have here the first chapter.
Prabhupāda: Oh, you go on reading.
Indian: Adhunika...
Hṛdayānanda: (trying to read something in Bengali) ...jijñāsa... (pause) ...gayi.... haya hi.... mamana.... mana.... gagane...
Prabhupāda: Oh, this is.... (says something in joking disgust, devotees laugh loudly).
Jayādvaita: I can read like that too. (more laughter)