Kṛṣṇa-Kāntī: As the Kali-yuga advances, the human beings will eat their children too. Śrīla Prabhupāda?
Prabhupāda: Yes, yes. Just like in the last war, they ate stool, their own stool, out of hunger. So when there will be no foodstuff, they will kill their own children. Already they are killing, abortion. Not only abortion, children grows... By surgical instrument, they kill and they take out the child... They are already killing.
Kṛṣṇa-Kāntī: When they take the pill, the birth control pill, are they killing their children too?
Prabhupāda: Killing means killing, what is that? What he is asking? I do not...
Svarūpa Dāmodara: He is asking that they take the pill, birth control pill.
Prabhupāda: No, no, that is one kind of killing. But directly killing. They, through some instrument, through the vagina, they kill, cut into pieces and get out. Living children. He is a scientist. That surgeon, he is a scientist, and doing this business.
Svarūpa Dāmodara: Yes, medical scientist.
Prabhupāda: Just see. He is paid for that killing.
Svarūpa Dāmodara: They lost the mercifulness, the quality...
Prabhupāda: What merciful? Animal has mercifulness. They are animals only. This modern civilization is producing animals. That's it. Who was speaking that slaughterhouse they are giving some injection that the animal may not feel pain? Rascal, he is killing him, and he is humanitarian work, he may not feel killed. If I say, "I shall kill you, but you will not feel any pain. Come on." This is their philosophy. They are killing, and they are saying, "Oh, may not be feeling any pain." Such rascaldom is going on. I therefore do not talk with any rascal except my disciples. I know they are all rascals. Waste of time. All this rascaldom is coming out of that wrong notion that life is from matter, that wrong notion.
Svarūpa Dāmodara: That is why they say, "So long as I am alive, enjoy as much as you can."
Prabhupāda: Yes, that is their philosophy. Hedonism.
Svarūpa Dāmodara: If they know that there is life after death or life started from life, then they would not be doing like this.
Prabhupāda: So many things you will change. (pause) And that is mystic power for me.
Kṛṣṇa-Kāntī: Surfing?
Prabhupāda: Yes, because I do not know how to do it. Therefore it is mystic power. But the boy is going like this. (pause) Just like one of the yogīs, she (he) walked over the river, crossed. So another old man said: "Oh this is only two paisā worth." Why? "I will pay two paisā to this boatman. He will cross me there." But to attain that power, he had to spend so many years for practicing. This is waste of time. If you can do it by paying two paisā or one ānā to a boatman to cross the river, why should you for ten years or fifteen years practice this yoga, just to show a magic?
Svarūpa Dāmodara: Prabhupāda, I remember an incident in Bombay. That was when I was in Calcutta about, a few years ago. There was a yogī. There was advertisement that he was going to walk on water.
Prabhupāda: No, that is possible.
Svarūpa Dāmodara: So I think it was about five hundred rupees per ticket.
Prabhupāda: Oh, just see. His real aim was to get some money.
Svarūpa Dāmodara: Radhakrishnan was there, the president. But ultimately, he could not walk. He fell down in the water.
Prabhupāda: And what about the money?
Svarūpa Dāmodara: I don't know. He was beaten or something. They said he missed something.
Prabhupāda: That's like you, chemist, just missing something, "In future we shall do it." It is the same thing. And these fools, Dr. Radhakrishnan and company, they are so fools that so many animals they are walking on the sea, "I am going to see another man." Just see, how they are fools. What is their credit? The sea lark. They call sea lark? They go very nicely. Why do they not see that? He is animal, he is, another is an animal.
Kṛṣṇa-Kāntī: Birds can float and they can fly.
Prabhupāda: Yes. So Dr. Radhakrishnan was a big rascal.
Svarūpa Dāmodara: But I could not believe by that time. I said, "It cannot be possible."
Prabhupāda: No, it is possible. It is possible. If one has practiced yoga system, He can become light. To walk over the water means to become very light, like cotton swab. Then he can walk. He can fly also. In Siddha-lokas, the inhabitants there, they fly in the sky. From one planet to another planet they go by flying. There is Siddha-loka planet. Therefore they are called Siddha-loka, means they have all perfection of this yogic mystic power.
Kṛṣṇa-Kāntī: Are Siddha-lokas like angels, Prabhupāda?
Prabhupāda: Angels, you can call, they are angels. But there are human beings who fly. In your side, Kāmakaḥ (?), there are some ladies who fly in the sky on a tree. You have not heard?
Svarūpa Dāmodara: I very vaguely have heard.
Prabhupāda: Yes. There are. They can fly in the sky on a tree.
Svarūpa Dāmodara: When I was a child, our grandfathers used to tell those things. So I would...
Prabhupāda: No, it is a fact. That is mentioned in Bhāgavata also, that... Whose daughter? She dreamed of a nice husband. So her friend,
Kṛṣṇa-Kāntī: Uṣā.
Prabhupāda: Ah, Uṣā, Uṣā, yes. So Aniruddha. That friend brought Aniruddha, Kṛṣṇa's son. She dreamt Aniruddha. So she promised, "I am bringing you just picture, which picture do you like?"
Kṛṣṇa-Kāntī: Citralekhā.
Prabhupāda: Citralekhā. Yes, he remembers. (pause)