Prabhupāda: Hippie. The result is hippie. In Western countries I see and lament. So many percent of their population are hippies. What is the benefit? They cannot do anything, useless population. They cannot utilize. And in America the Vietnam was selected—"Let them die," in disappointment. Useless waste of... They require... Could not manage. "Let them die." Marawara gar leka.(?) When we have finished all sorts of condemnation, we say, "You die." That's all. Tell them. They have no idea how to reform this degraded population. This is the only way, Kṛṣṇa consciousness. In New York I have seen in ordinary places how niggardly they live. No human being can live like that. In good places, nicely dressed, nicely... But in East... East Village or something?
Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: Yeah, in the East Village.
Prabhupāda: No gentleman can live. So niggardly. The shops, the neighborhood, the area, all...
Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: That's where you went to begin the movement.
Prabhupāda: No, no, I did not select that. Unknowingly I was thrown. I did not know which quarter is good way.
Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: Who showed you that area?
Prabhupāda: Mukunda. I asked him that "Find out some upper class...." He found out that 26 Second Avenue. (laughs) I did not know. That's all. Anyone...
Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: Humble beginning.
Prabhupāda: The landlord took advantage. He was receiving rent, eighty-nine rupees or eighty rupees. He charge me 125. And another room, he was getting fifty. So he charged me seventy-five. Little room.
Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: Dollars.
Prabhupāda: Ah, yes, dollars. Eighty and fifty, 130. He charged me two hundred.
Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: Oh, you were paying too much. 'Cause I was living right there. I was not paying so much. I was paying sixty-five dollars.
Prabhupāda: How many there was...?
Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: For four rooms.
Prabhupāda: Just see.
Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: He took advantage.
Prabhupāda: I took advantage, "Let me stay somewhere." I was loitering in the street, so I thought, "Let me stay somewhere. Then I shall see later on."