Prabhupāda: You cannot say that, "We are Christian. Now the body is dead. Now we don't consider it as dead. We believe it is not dead." No, it is dead. Either you are Christian or Hindu or Muslim, it is dead, it is useless. So when we speak, we speak on this basis, that the body is important—it doesn't matter whether is Christian body or Hindu body or Muslim body—so long the soul is there. When the soul is not there, it is useless. It is applicable to everyone.
Mike Robinson: I think I'm beginning to get, if you could explain, a bit confused. What I'd like you to explain is . . .
Prabhupāda: We are trying to educate people on this basis.
Mike Robinson: But that's, if I understand you correctly, you seem to be educating people on a purely scientific basis.
Prabhupāda: Yes.
Mike Robinson: So where does religion come into it at all?
Prabhupāda: Religion means also science. But they have taken religion as faith, "I believe." Religion means, actually, religion means . . . just like in the dictionary you find . . . what is the religion, you find.
Hari-śauri: Obeying the Supreme Person.
Prabhupāda: Yes. Religion means to learn how to obey the supreme controller. That is religion. So you may be Christian, I may be Hindu, it doesn't matter. But we must accept there is a supreme controller.
Hari-śauri: (indistinct background comments)
Mike Robinson: I'm sorry, we seem to have run out of tape. Are you happy to carry on for a few more minutes perhaps?
Hari-śauri: I have that reference in the dictionary. It says "Human recognition of superhuman controlling power . . ."
Prabhupāda: Just see!
Hari-śauri: ". . . and especially of a personal God entitled to obedience, and effect of such recognition on the conduct of mental attitude."