Hari-śauri: Prabhupāda saw that article on that Ted Patrick.
Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: I saw it in New York recently, our president, (sic:) Ādikeśa, he went up against Ted Patrick on television, big television show, and he completely defeated him. So Ted Patrick was saying that, you know, these people are all fanatics. So (sic:) Ādikeśa, at the end, he said, so, if we're fanatics, then the Pope is even more fanatical, so why don't you deprogram him? And everybody laughed at that Ted Patrick. (laughter)
Rāmeśvara: He says we teach our.... I mean he has many arguments. He knows all about the incidents in Germany and Japan, and he uses this against us.
Prabhupāda: He's collected all these bad.
Rāmeśvara: "Lying and cheating," he says.
Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: A few devotees who have joined him, who left and have joined him, they have given him this inside information, so he tries.... Actually, though, no strong devotee can be changed by him. He only gets the very new men. So now he's written a book.
Prabhupāda: About us?
Rāmeśvara: About his experiences of kidnapping our students and others.
Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: What is the book called?
Rāmeśvara: It's called Let My Children Go.
Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: Let Our Children Go, yes.
Rāmeśvara: So we have got our lawyer to start a lawsuit against him, because in that book they are blaspheming us like anything. And this very big publisher, who published the book, has spent lots of money in advertising. And the advertising always uses our name, because it's controversial. They always try to get people to buy the book, saying "Now you can read about the dangerous Hare Kṛṣṇa people."
Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: (laughs) It's a good propaganda, I think.
Rāmeśvara: But we're trying to stop that.
Prabhupāda: America is feeling the strength of Hare Kṛṣṇa movement.
Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: Yes, they're getting pinched. You have really come as an aggressor, Prabhupāda. (Prabhupāda laughs) Actually I think we are the most dangerous revolutionaries in the whole world.
Prabhupāda: To the rākṣasas.