Prabhupāda: "Ah, this is so cold." (laughter)
Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: Unbearable. (break) . . . too cold, then we can go in our bus to Florida for preaching. In the winter you go to Florida, eighty-five, ninety degrees.
Prabhupāda: Florida. And in summer?
Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: Summer it's not very pleasant.
Puṣṭa Kṛṣṇa: It's about the same.
Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: Really? Most people, though, most tourists don't go to Florida in the summertime.
Prabhupāda: Very hot?
Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: It is a little hot.
Prabhupāda: Some rain?
Puṣṭa Kṛṣṇa: There's moisture in the air and rain, like that.
Hari-śauri: They have a lot of hurricanes there, don't they?
Puṣṭa Kṛṣṇa: A few. But no place is perfect within the material world. (break)
Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: On the fourth floor we're going to have doll projects, doll exhibits. So there's an open balcony up there, and I want to do something like that, see up there with the glass, the balcony?
Prabhupāda: Yes.
Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: I want to do that. Because there's an open balcony right on the street side. Enclose it with glass, it would be very popular. After going to see the doll exhibits people can sit there comfortably, take, you know, rest on the bench. And it can be seen from outside, so it will be indirectly an advertisement. You'll see that there are people sitting there. (break)
Rāmeśvara: . . . artists that work on your books, they have to train many devotees to paint, because one day in all the government buildings there will be paintings of Kṛṣṇa. Just like now they have all these paintings of so-called . . .
Prabhupāda: If they are selling, you can sell these pictures.
Rāmeśvara: I think they will sell. (break) . . . popular is that at colleges they like to have art shows come, where they display the paintings and then they move on to another college. So we can do that with some of our art paintings also. They will give us one hall just to hang the paintings for some time.
Prabhupāda: So many trees have come. (break) . . . from stone there is grass.
Rāmeśvara: They have no explanation for this. No one ever asks these questions, Śrīla Prabhupāda, why the grass is coming out of stone.
Prabhupāda: No. Our point is why even in moon planet there is stone only, and . . .
Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: No living entities.
Prabhupāda: . . . no living entities?
Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: No life.
Puṣṭa Kṛṣṇa: They say there is no air.
Hari-śauri: It's due to atmosphere, that's their reasoning.
Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: They say stone can be in both places, but life, living entities, cannot.
Bali-mardana: They classify organic and inorganic.
Prabhupāda: They may talk all rubbish, foolish things. We don't believe it.
Rāmeśvara: They say that on a planet like Jupiter the atmosphere is full of methane, which is poisonous, so no life can live there.
Prabhupāda: Only here.
Rāmeśvara: Only here. (laughter)
Devotee: . . . Pacific Ocean one volcano came up and it formed an island, and within five years there was grass growing on it. So they tried to say that the seeds of the grass floated in the ocean and reached the island and began to grow. They couldn't explain how it became vegetated so quickly.
Prabhupāda: So why the seeds does not go by air to the other planets?
Rāmeśvara: When they first developed the radio, they set up a system to send out radio messages into outer space. And their idea was that if there was any intelligence on other planets they would answer by sending . . .
Prabhupāda: So whether your radio message reached there?
Hari-śauri: We should wait, Śrīla Prabhupāda, a minute, because police over there, they may object if we walk. (break)
Prabhupāda: . . . only in America. (laughter) All intelligence monopolized by America.
Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: Sounds like the old British policy.
Prabhupāda: Foolish policy. Just like the deaf man, he thinks everyone is deaf. You know that? This is psychology. Deaf man will think that everyone is deaf. Broadcast radio message in the Pacific Ocean, the aquatics they do not reply, that means there is no life? Rascal theory.
Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: Anyway, maybe they speak a different language.
Devotee: They don't understand that there may be different mediums of communication.
Rāmeśvara: The government announces to the public that so much money from the taxes has to be spent on this space exploration. But according to the information that you're giving us, it is not possible for them to be spending so much money to photograph Phoenix, so they must be stealing the money.
Puṣṭa Kṛṣṇa: You mentioned that in previous ages when there was yajña taking place on this planet, sometimes the demigods would come down. So that means that is it possible that they would be communicating with the people of this planet?
Prabhupāda: Hmm. They're speaking Sanskrit language. In all other planets they are speaking Sanskrit.
Hari-śauri: You also said they had the ability to make themselves visible or invisible to the population. Actually, they have many sightings of what they call UFOs, so-called spaceships and things like this, or things that they cannot explain, but the government doesn't release the information because they think that people will panic. Sometimes aircraft pilots, they've reported that their aircrafts are being inspected whilst they're up in the air.
Prabhupāda: Inspection?
Hari-śauri: Yes.
Prabhupāda: Who inspects?
Hari-śauri: Well, they don't know who. But there's all kinds of things that they can't explain, but they don't release the information. What the scientists can't explain, they, they won't tell anyone.
Rāmeśvara: After they claimed they have landed on the moon, they announced that they wanted to build a gigantic dome on the moon's surface, and within the dome they would have these pumps pumping air, and in that way earth people could go to the moon and live there.
Prabhupāda: So what happened to their project? Stopped now?
Puṣṭa Kṛṣṇa: They're going to do it on Mars instead.
Prabhupāda: Hmm?
Puṣṭa Kṛṣṇa: They're going to do it on Mars instead. (break)
Rāmeśvara: . . . do it on the moon because they want to have people go there to drill into the surface of the moon to see if there are any valuable minerals or jewels underneath the surface.
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Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: That is a modern sculpture.
Passerby: Hare Kṛṣṇa!
Devotees: Hare Kṛṣṇa!
Passerby: Jaya! (laughter)
Prabhupāda: He says jaya also.
Devotees: Yes.
Hari-śauri: This is the kind of artwork that they're putting up everywhere now. (bangs on the sculpture)
Puṣṭa Kṛṣṇa: Hollow. Called the formless form.
Prabhupāda: Hmm? Yes.
Devotee: That's supposed to be pleasing to the eye. It's supposed to bring pleasant thoughts into the mind. (laughter) It simply makes them crazy.
Rāmeśvara: It's like the "emperor's new clothes." Everyone thinks it is pleasing because the leaders or the artists say it is pleasing. Everyone is being fooled. And if they say it is meaningless then they are called a fool.
Prabhupāda: In Bengali it is called pare mukhe jhala. Somebody says: "Oh, it is very hot!" "Oh, it is very hot!" (laughter) He did not taste, but the other man says: "Oh, it is very hot!" So he says: "Oh, it is very hot!" Pare mukhe jhala.