Prabhupāda: Yes. Practically everything depends on practice. Abhyāsa-yoga-yuktena cetasā nānya-gāminā (BG 8.8). Abhyāsa-yoga. Abhyāsa-yoga means yoga practice... Practice it. So this whole Kṛṣṇa consciousness movement is to practice transferring from one kind of consciousness to another. So we require practice. Just like one man can run few miles. I cannot run even one mile. He has practiced. We see some boys, they run, run on. They practice. Practice it. Strength of the heart increasing by practice. And if I run, my heart will be palpitating. Because I have no practice. So by practice, everything can be attained. Hare Rāma Hare Rāma Rāma Rāma Hare Hare. (break) ...determination. And this determination is increased by celibacy. Brahmacārya is recommended to keep oneself determined. A brahmacārī, if he determines something, he executes. He has got that strength of mind. Those who are too much addicted to sex life, they cannot be determined. They cannot be fixed-up. They are fluctuating, changing. People are, in modern day, they cannot sit down in a place for a long time. Therefore so much traveling. The traveling business is very prosperous. Everyone wants to travel. They cannot fix, fix up. So the processes recommended, they're very valuable, but it is not possible to follow them all in the present age because everything is reducing. So our method is to pray to Kṛṣṇa to give us the necessary strength. That's all. Otherwise, by regular practice, this age is very difficult. Unfavorable. First thing is memory is very short. We cannot remember. Life is very short. Life is short, at the same time, so much disturbed by anxiety, by disease, by natural disturbances. Roga-śokādibhiḥ. Short life; that is also disturbed by disease and lamentation. Every moment there is something for which you have to lament. "Oh!" Roga-śokādibhiḥ. And disease. This body is a breeding ground of all kinds of disease. Life is short and it is so much disturbed. So how it is possible to practice? Therefore, this one practice—chanting Hare Kṛṣṇa, and hearing—that is very nice. And praying to Kṛṣṇa, "Please give me strength." Hare, "O Energy of Kṛṣṇa, O Kṛṣṇa, I am fallen, I have no strength. Please accept me." That's all. "I have no qualification. I am frail. I am trying, but I am failing." All these appeals should be made. And Kṛṣṇa is all-powerful, He can do anything. Even we, we do not perform, trying our best, if we fail, Kṛṣṇa will help us. Just like a child tries his best, but he falls down. The mother takes up and, "All right. Come on. Walk." Like that. Yes?
Not strong (Conversations)
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Conversations and Morning Walks
1968 Conversations and Morning Walks
1972 Conversations and Morning Walks
Prabhupāda: Henry, Henry, yes. So he revolted, not being controlled, revolted against being controlled by the priestly order. Here also we see, purohita amātya-suhṛd-gaṇādayaḥ. When the king left, then the priestly order, purohita, purohita means priestly order, amātya, amātya means ministers, and suhṛd-gaṇādayaḥ, suhṛt means those who are willing welfare of the state, they became very much aggrieved that the king has left.
- alakṣayantaḥ padavīṁ prajāpater
- hatodyamāḥ pratyupasṛtya te purīm
- ṛṣīn sametān abhivandya sāśravo
- nyavedayan paurava bhartṛ-viplavam
- (SB 4.13.49)
So they were afraid of some political convulsion. So although the son was worthless, so they decided that "Let us make him king. Otherwise, without king, how the state can go on?" So
- bhṛgv-ādayas te munayo
- lokānāṁ kṣema-darśinaḥ
- goptary asati vai nṟṇāṁ
- paśyantaḥ paśu-sāmyatām
- (SB 4.14.1)
Because there was no king, so people became always like..., almost like animals. Paśu-sāmyatām. Paśu means animal, and sāmyatām means equal. So when there is a political, less strong political situation, not very strong government, at that time a class of men take advantage. Just like in Calcutta. Because the government was very lenient, not very strong, a demonic class of men took advantage of it and they began to create atrocities and fearfulness in Calcutta city. We have seen, practically people are not going out after evening, they are always staying in the fearful state. Nobody knows whether he will come back home again when he goes out of his home on the street. People are so much disturbed. So in the absence of strong king, these people take advantage and create disturbances. That is always there.
Prabhupāda: No, what he is, is he professor or what?
Indian man (2): No, he's not a professor. He's just a sadak(?), you see, interested in reading and writing.
Guru dāsa: So if he will put the name on any foreword, then he can also create any theory. If that man did not give the foreword and he has put the name, he will create any theory.
Indian man (2): Yes, of course, that's what he is up to, that's what he is up to.
Guru dāsa: And if someone doubts that, then they're not strong followers of Caitanya Mahāprabhu.
Indian man (2): Yes. That is a great thing against him.
Guru dāsa: How can you doubt the authority?
Indian man (2): I think he has got certain preconceptions in his mind and, you see, he just tries to prove them by collecting all sorts of data that will just fit into his point of view.
Prabhupāda: Just like Gandhi wanted to prove nonviolence from Gītā.
Indian man (2): From Gītā. No, not like that. I would say like Brindarkara(?) wanted to prove that the..., that Kṛṣṇa story and Kṛṣṇa religion had been borrowed from West, you see, and they are a copy of Christ religion. Mandakara has done that.(end)
Śyāmasundara: Whenever someone challenges you, you always know the trick, what their weak point is, the weakness is in their challenge, and you go right there. Every time.
Prabhupāda: That is the trick of wrestling. (laughter)
Śyāmasundara: Find where they are off balance, where their balance is off.
Prabhupāda: Anyway, there was a wrestler, he was not very strong, but he knew the trick how to defeat the strongest man.
Śyāmasundara: There is a science of equilibrium where you can study another person, if he is off equilibrium, you can move his body in such a way to defeat him every time. Japanese art.
Prabhupāda: Train. That Los Angeles, there is one Japanese...
Śyāmasundara: Behind the temple.
Prabhupāda: You know?
Devotee (2): Yes.
Prabhupāda: What he is teaching?
Several devotees: Karate.
Prabhupāda: Karate.
Śyāmasundara: That's it, same, that art of defeating someone if he is off balance a certain way.
Prabhupāda: That I have already explained. The change is up to you; it is your choice. If everyone becomes God conscious, the world becomes the kingdom of God.
John Nordheimer: Many people have tried to change the world, but we see that they have failed. Many people have tried to see God, but they do not succeed.
Prabhupāda: That is because their purpose is not strong. That is due to māyā, forgetfulness. Just like darkness and light; if your light is strong, there is no darkness. But if you have no light, or if your light is not very strong, there is darkness. This is the principle: If you want to drive away darkness, you must bring light. That is the only medicine. You don't have to make a separate endeavor to drive away darkness. As soon as you bring light, darkness will go. The motto of our magazine Back To Godhead is: "Godhead is light, nescience is darkness. Where there is Godhead there is no nescience." This is also the Vedic
injunction: Don't remain in darkness; come to the light. How is this possible? When I flew to London from Los Angeles, there was no darkness, for we did not allow the sun to set, you remain always in light. This means that if you don't forget Kṛṣṇa, your life will be successful. If you aim your plane westward and don't stop, you will remain in sunlight all the time. Similarly, if you remain in Kṛṣṇa consciousness by the simple method of chanting Hare Kṛṣṇa, Hare Kṛṣṇa, Kṛṣṇa Kṛṣṇa, Hare Hare, Hare Rāma, Hare Rāma, Rāma Rāma, Hare Hare, you will never see the darkness. This is because Kṛṣṇa and Kṛṣṇa's name are absolute; Kṛṣṇa is not different from His name.
1973 Conversations and Morning Walks
Father Tanner: Hm. But, you see, knowledge and attainment aren't the same thing. You know, I may know that it is wrong to be an alcoholic, and maybe I am not actually, physically an alcoholic, but it doesn't mean to say that interiorally I have cleansed myself of all addiction. The fact that you are not drinking for a year doesn't mean to say that you have overcome the intoxicant urge if that is in you, although you know it is wrong.
Prabhupāda: No, this argument is not very strong. Just like one foodstuff, freshly made, it is fresh. But if somebody argues that if it remains four days more, it will become bad, that is surmisation. Now it is fresh. We take it fresh. What will happen in future, that is no consideration. In future, everyone may fall and everyone may become elevated. But we have to take his present situation, what he is at present.
Father Tanner: But couldn't it be the difference between appearance and reality?
Prabhupāda: This is reality. If at the present moment he is free from all sinful activities, that is reality. In future, everyone is susceptible to fall down. If he does not carry the principles strictly that proneness is there. But that is not consideration. What he is at present, that is consideration.
Father Tanner: But what he is at present may be an accident.
Prabhupāda: Why accident? Which is actually happening, why it is accident?
Father Tanner: Well, for instance, if you take a man shipwrecked on an island alone, he is not in any sense taking part in impure love, or illicit love. But it doesn't mean to say that he is free from all desire for illicit love.
Prabhupāda: No. Nobody's free. But so long he acts nicely, he's nice.
Prabhupāda: They say. They have got this cell theory. Therefore under condition, this law of gravitation works. It is not unconditional. Then the question is who will make the condition?
Karandhara: Well, they say that the green apple's not falling is just a case of an opposite factor being stronger than the pull of gravity. The strength of the twig holding the apple on is stronger than the pull of gravity.
Prabhupāda: That I say, that the law of gravitation acts under certain conditions. This is also conditional.
Karandhara: Well, the law of gravitation is always working, the energy is always there. It is just not strong enough to pull the apple down.
Prabhupāda: Working under condition. Working under condition. Just like you take a little needle, it will go immediately down the water, and you give a big log, it will not go. The weight of the needle and the weight of the big log, much different. Still, the needle will go; the gravitation will work. But to the log it will not work.
Karandhara: Well, there is a counter-law called buoyancy.
1974 Conversations and Morning Walks
Prabhupāda: Then you are spiritually not improving.
Guest: I beg your pardon?
Prabhupāda: Then you are not spiritually improving.
Guest: No, but that is how they will give me reply, and I can tell them.
Prabhupāda: That is not very strong reason.
Guest: No, but what I say, they may be a strong, but I say I am stronger than them.
Prabhupāda: No, that they will understand that because you are one of them and this is the...
Guest: No, no. I...
Prabhupāda: ...that your idea means our idea, carried.
Guest: Not necessarily. (break)
Prabhupāda: Officially it is not. Officially it is not. But being the family member, this is the family opinion.
Guest: Certainly, it's my honest opinion.
Prabhupāda: But the thing is I want to do something solid.
Girirāja: "Generally it is seen that one who has risen from a poverty-stricken life and becomes wealthy creates some charitable institution at the end of his life..." (break)
Prabhupāda: ...goes to market and gets some of this... What is called, bhūta bhūta?
Yaśomatīnandana: Corns.
Prabhupāda: Corns. (break)
Dr. Patel: That is why I say that rasanā (tongue) is not so strong as śiṣṇa (genital).
Prabhupāda: No, if you do not allow rasanā to enjoy much, śiṣṇa will be subdued.
Dr. Patel: But still, I mean personally, for myself, I don't have any taste for any food. In fact I have been taking all the food together just like the sannyāsīs and I don't have any taste. But still I have from within me I don't find that form of sex carrying out even though I am a scientist.
Prabhupāda: Yes. Caitanya Mahāprabhu used to say that "Sex life is so strong that even if I see one wooden female form I become excited."
Dr. Patel: I feel the same thing.
Prabhupāda: Yes. So this is not unnatural. Caitanya Mahāprabhu tells this because this cannot be avoided. But by knowledge it can be avoided.
Dr. Patel: We were talking the same thing.
Prabhupāda: Yes. That "On certain plea only, they have stopped our most important ceremony." In this way agitation must go on. And our men, those who took part in political agitation, they should go there and speak everywhere, that "It is religious discrimination."
Bali Mardana: They should have a protest meeting in front of the Parliament building, with signs.
Prabhupāda: Protest meeting must be there. How to organize? At least, a protest meeting should be done in such a way that the whole world may know that the British Government stopped the yearly Ratha-yatra ceremony of the Hindus. That should be organized. What can be done? You are not very strong GBC's. There must be vehement protest meeting.
Bali Mardana: They can protest in front of Downing Street, in front of the Prime Minister's residence.
Prabhupāda: Yes, protest meeting, go on, organize. Go, all of you. What is the talking here? They have seen that the movement is growing more important. So this is discrimination. In England the Church is very strong. They have organized like this. You quote the publication, "There is no alarm." Of course, it is on the plea of police protest, police objection. The police objection means one's religious ceremony should be stopped? What is this? Simply for some technical mistake, now they can warn that "You must do it. Otherwise it will be stopped." How is that? No. That means this is police government? Does it mean it is police government?
1975 Conversations and Morning Walks
Prabhupāda: He said like that. I could not understand at that time what does he expect. Of course, I knew that he wanted me to preach.
Yaśodānandana: I think you have done this in grand style.
Devotees: Jaya, Prabhupāda! Haribol!
Prabhupāda: Yes, done grand style because I strictly follow the instruction of my Guru Mahārāja, that's all. Otherwise I have no strength. I have not played any magic. Did I? Any gold manufacturing? (laughter) Still, I have got better disciples than the gold-manufacturing guru.
Yaśodānandana: Before you came, many gurus came, but they did not make any pure devotee of Kṛṣṇa.
Prabhupāda: How they can? He is not pure devotee of Kṛṣṇa. How he can do? Kṛṣṇa-śakti vinā nāhe nāma pracāra: "Without being empowered by Kṛṣṇa nobody can turn a person to become devotee of Kṛṣṇa." It is not... Artificially, you cannot make. He may make show of gold manufacturing, but he cannot make a devotee of Kṛṣṇa. That is not possible.
Jayatīrtha: So the purpose of having the Society is to show the devotees how they can always be twenty-four hours engaged according to your instruction.
Prabhupāda: What are these?
Kirtirāja: Unfortunately those are returns. When people don't want the books, then they return them.
Rāmeśvara: Very few returns.
Kirtirāja: Very few, though.
Prabhupāda: Never mind. That is not as strong.
Kirtirāja: Now we have about almost 125 standing orders for Śrīmad-Bhāgavatam and about almost one hundred for Caitanya-caritāmṛta.
Prabhupāda: That's nice.
Rāmeśvara: We have just recently given Satsvarūpa a new car. So now he has four vans and a station wagon car.
Prabhupāda: Four vans?
Rāmeśvara: Four vans and one station wagon car, so he's able to cover so many universities very quickly.
Prabhupāda: Very nice.
Rāmeśvara: This is Hṛdayānanda Swami's office.
Prabhupāda: Oh, Spanish office.
Prabhupāda: That's all right. There was a big animal. So what is the difference? They are animals, big or small. You have seen a skeleton of pygmy man also. So where is that man now? You have seen pygmy man, you don't require archeological. So where is that man?
Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: No, they don't live any more. Now we are more intelligent. Previously there were pygmy men, very less intelligent, small, not nice looking. Now we have got more...
Prabhupāda: According to our śāstra you are going to be pygmy men. That is, there is proof, because you are not as strong as your forefathers. That's a fact. You are becoming dwarfer, dwarfer. According to our śāstra you come to that pygmy, (indistinct) in due course of time. As it was before, so again the time is repeating, history repeating.
Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: Then that means our pygmy men were from a previous Kali-yuga?
Prabhupāda: Yes. We say there was Kali-yuga. Four yugas are changing.
Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: Dinosaurs also?
Prabhupāda: Yes.
Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: They're from Kali-yuga?
Prabhupāda: Kali-yuga, any yuga. The things are going on by nature's way, prakṛteḥ kriyamāṇāni guṇaiḥ karmāṇi... (BG 3.27). They're going on.
Devotee: But if we have bones from so many yugas ago...
Prabhupāda: Yes, no illicit sex, no... This is the method, and chanting is the process. Then you will remain strong. And if you neglect, then you become weak. To remain strong is not difficult, but we don't want to remain strong. That is our decision. Otherwise it is not difficult. But we don't want to remain strong. We voluntarily become weak. Then māyā catches, "Come on."
Devotee (2): Is it necessary to see the Deity regularly in order to remain strong?
Prabhupāda: Yes, everything necessary as we have prescribed. If you think that it is not necessary, unnecessary, then you under the māyā. Why do you take that, "Is it necessary?" That means you are not strong enough. You cannot follow; therefore you say, "Is it necessary?" You are considering. That means you are becoming prey to māyā. As soon as you ask this, that means you have already fallen a victim of māyā.
Devotee (1): Kṛṣṇa says "without doubting."
Prabhupāda: Yes.
Hari-śauri: So how to get those people who are immersed in māyā to become serious? When we go out and we preach our saṅkīrtana movement, how to get...
Donkhs!" very strong building. You are not strong enough to live there, so why you are making strong building? The building will stay, and you will die. So what is the use of making a strong building? Let the building also go with you. Why do you labor so much? Is it not? You are making strong building but you are not strong enough to live there. And why you are laboring so much? What is the answer?
Hari-śauri: Their excuse is that they are leaving something for the next generation, for their children.
Prabhupāda: But they will also not live.
Australian devotee 1: They think they will be recognized by their good works.
Prabhupāda: That means asses. The asses think that "I will be recognized by my work." He takes so much labor, load, although nothing, not a grain of the load belongs to him. But he takes the load unnecessarily. So this is their business. He will not live, his son will not live, his grandson will not live, but he is making permanent business.
Amogha: But when we're living we can enjoy.
Siddha-svarūpa: ...not right, rioting. Chaos.
Prabhupāda: And what they will create, chaos? They have no strength.
Siddha-svarūpa: Well, they burn their mattresses and they...
Prabhupāda: One slap is sufficient. (break) ...first-class man.
Upendra: That is if they have money, Prabhupāda. The poor man he suffers more.
Prabhupāda: Anardhena naya-rahitam.. This is stated in Bhāgavatam: "If you have no money, then you won't get justice." You can purchase justice. This is Kali-yuga. Anardhena naya-rahitam. (break) What people mean by religion? (break) ...not serious. Nobody is serious about religion. So what do they think about religion?
Bali-mardana: They think it is a nice thing so that the people will work hard and not create any trouble. (break)
Upendra: ...Protestant work ethic. Protestant work ethics. The western culture has developed because of that work ethic based on, "You work hard and go to church." "Work hard and believe in God," this is the advancement, why western culture is..., is one theory why it's...
Prabhupāda: Why shall I believe in God? What is the benefit? Work hard... Now, of course, I shall work hard; I will get money. That's all right. Why shall I believe in God?
Jayatīrtha: Everyone is afraid now, of taking it. The crime rate has become very high.
Prabhupāda: Black and white?
Jayatīrtha: Yes.
Prabhupāda: Negroes are envious of the white men.
Jayatīrtha: Yes. In Detroit every year one out of every five hundred people is murdered.
Prabhupāda: White man?
Jayatīrtha: White men and black men. Usually black men are murdering.
Prabhupāda: What is the reason? The same feeling as in India, Hindu Muslim. But it is not so strong.
Brahmānanda: No. (end)
Prabhupāda: And why not others? BBT warehouse, there are so many.
Gopāla Kṛṣṇa: Well, a big room will be very good, so when we construct that, we can have a big hall.
Prabhupāda: Oh. That's nice.
Gopāla Kṛṣṇa: Yes. A big hall, like in Los Angeles where we can have shelves and...
Saurabha: The slab is not strong enough to have so much weight on it.
Prabhupāda: Oh.
Gopāla Kṛṣṇa: Oh.
Saurabha: It has to be on the ground floor. We were thinking of making a godown there in the back, in back of the temple. When we build the temple, we build also a godown there.
Girirāja: Mr. Menon is willing to move upstairs.
Prabhupāda: Hm?
Girirāja: Mr. Menon, who has a flat on the ground floor, he is willing to shift upstairs if we want to trade.
Gopāla Kṛṣṇa: Let's have a look at his apartment today.
Prabhupāda: So, you can make down.
Prabhupāda: As soon as you make "Hindu religion," "Muslim religion," "Christian religion," immediately it is not religion, immediately. Because Kṛṣṇa says, sarva-dharmān parityajya (BG 18.66). Why does He say, sarva-dharmān parityajya? (Aside:) Hare Kṛṣṇa. Jaya. Because that is not religion. The so-called religions which are going on, they are not religion. That we do not say at the present moment because you are not so strong. But we have to say that. There is no religion. All cheating. Why Kṛṣṇa says, sarva-dharmān parityajya (BG 18.66)? Why?
Akṣayānanda: Because there is no other religion.
Prabhupāda: Yes. There is no religion.
Akṣayānanda: That is actual religion, surrendering to Kṛṣṇa. Everything else is cheating.
Prabhupāda: Yes. Cheating others, cheating himself. Just like this animal sacrifice. The man who is sacrificing, he is cheating himself, and he is cheating others also. (break) ...cheating, envious. Just like a man who is killing another man. So he is envious to himself as well as the man whom he is killing. Both. I am killing somebody, he is being killed. I am envious. And I forget that I'll be killed. Then I am envious to me also.
Brahmānanda: Yeah. Even one's own self-interest he is not taking care of.
Prabhupāda: This is the position. Even it is forbidden... In the Christian religion it is forbidden: "Thou shall not kill." And they are killing. That means envious of the animal, and he is envious of himself also. They are now being killed in the womb of the mother. Why the child is now being killed within the womb of the mother? Hm?
Prabhupāda: Eh?
Cyavana: If Kṛṣṇa knows that we will suffer here in this material world if we come here, why does He let us go?
Prabhupāda: Why the thief goes to the prisonhouse? He knows that "If I go to the prisonhouse, I will be put into distress."
Cyavana: But the government is not strong enough to force him not to go, not to steal.
Prabhupāda: Why government is not strong enough?
Cyavana: The government doesn't have the power to control everyone. But Kṛṣṇa can...
Prabhupāda: No. Even if he's strong enough, you disobey. The government has made so many things that you cannot steal, the iron chest, but still, you are clever enough that you do.
Puṣṭa Kṛṣṇa: The independence is there. Sometimes people ask, Prabhupāda, that if the spiritual world is ānandamayo 'bhyāsāt (Vedānta-sūtra 1.1.12), full of bliss, then how is it that, somehow or another, we've left that blissful situation and come into this hellish...
Prabhupāda: This argument we have talked many times. Everyone knows that out of prisonhouse freedom is there. Why he goes to the prisonhouse? Everyone knows it. Why does he go to the prisonhouse?
Puṣṭa Kṛṣṇa: Not by choice. He is placed there.
Cyavana: Kṛṣṇa is the supreme controller. If He wanted to check us from going there, He could check us from going into the prison, from offending.
Prabhupāda: Hare Kṛṣṇa. Jaya.
Puṣṭa Kṛṣṇa: (laughs at something)
Prabhupāda: Any woman surfing?
Puṣṭa Kṛṣṇa: Very, very few. Not so many.
Prabhupāda: Not at all. I don't see any women.
Harikeśa: They're not strong enough. Not strong enough.
Prabhupāda: And still, they want equal right? (break) ...for jumping.
Puṣṭa Kṛṣṇa: Not today, Śrīla Prabhupāda. (break)
Prabhupāda: ...cannot move. "Big sea"? What is this? No, that's all right. Hare Kṛṣṇa. Jaya.
Puṣṭa Kṛṣṇa: This boy, Prabhupāda, he bought one of your books in a store, Bhagavad-gītā. While he was in the army he bought a book in a store, Bhagavad-gītā, and he read the book, and he came to the temple in Johannesburg and he practically joined immediately.
Prabhupāda: What was...
Puṣṭa Kṛṣṇa: He very much likes to read.
Prabhupāda: Yesterday there was sale, some books? How many?
Puṣṭa Kṛṣṇa: How many books were sold last night?
Devotee (3): Not too many, ten, fifteen big books.
Prabhupāda: That means he has got distinction between men and women. He is not yet paṇḍit. Paṇḍitaḥ sama-darśinaḥ (BG 5.18). He is a fool. That's all. He is a fool. So what is the value of his words? He is a fool.
Indian man (4): So he'll go first to make...
Prabhupāda: He should always consider, "There is woman, that's all. She is my mother." That's all. Matṛvāt para-dareṣu. Then what is the...? Suppose you sit down with your mother and chant. What is the wrong? But he is not so strong; then he should go to the forest. Why he should live in the Nairobi city? On the street there are so many women. He will walk on the street closing the eyes? (laughter) This is all rascaldom. They are rascals. They are not devotees, simply rascals.
Indian man (4): Some of our devotee goes to the other temple like Swami Nārāyaṇa and they want to see the ladies there, so then they are taking these instruction from them.
Prabhupāda: Our devotees go to Swami Nārāyaṇa?
Indian man (4): Yes, they go. Here our devotees, they went to Mombassa for, after Lord Caitanya Mahāprabhu. When I was not there, all of them went to Swami...
Prabhupāda: These things should be stopped. They leave their own temple and go to Swami Nārāyaṇa temple? Stop.
Indian man (4): They likes their lunch. They goes for lunch. Yes, that's true. All of them went without asking me. About five, six devotees, immediately from here went to Swami Nārāyaṇa.
Prabhupāda: So this should be rectified.
Dr. Patel: Many of these boys must have taking tea in past. How they could stop it?
Prabhupāda: What is that?
Dr. Patel: Many of them must be taking...
Prabhupāda: No, no, no.
Dr. Patel: Not now, before.
Prabhupāda: Oh, before they are taking anything. (laughter)
Dr. Patel: How could they stop it? By virtue of the strength of the mind. That man, if he has got no strength of mind, he should not...
Prabhupāda: That is Kṛṣṇa conscious. The government spent millions of dollars to stop LSD habit. But when they come to me, I say, "You cannot do it." They immediately stopped. Therefore U.S. government is sympathetic to this movement. They are surprised how these drug-addicted men are becoming servant of Kṛṣṇa. One Dr. Judah, he has written a book about us, that the "wonderful..."
Dr. Patel: LSD begets a condition of the mind just like...
Prabhupāda: Whatever it may be...
Dr. Patel: ...nirakalpa-samādhi. One man told me that's a very good... (laughing) I say we...
Prabhupāda: That is another nonsense. Nonsense. Fools.
Dr. Patel: Nirakalpa-samādhi. But they must be getting some sort of condition of the mind, though temporary. That is why they must have turned to that, no?
Prabhupāda: There is no consciousness.
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Acyutānanda: Just like they nationalize industries, they want to nationalize the temple, Kṛṣṇa.
Harikeśa: In Andhra Pradesh all the temples are nationalized?
Indian man (1): Yes, all temples.
Harikeśa: What about ours?
Mahāṁsa: Well, they're not so strong in the other states. Andhra Pradesh and...
Gopāla Kṛṣṇa: But they'll copy it. I think they're starting in U.P. now. I read in the paper.
Acyutānanda: Anywhere that there are big temples.
Gopāla Kṛṣṇa: U.P. has a lot of temples.
Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: So what about our temples?
Gopāla Kṛṣṇa: Yes, they will gradually try.
Prabhupāda: So you make this American property.
Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: Oh. Make it American property.
Harikeśa: How about English?
Prabhupāda: Our society is registered in America.
Indian man (1): Especially...
Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: That's true, Prabhupāda. Sometimes you call them "rascal" to their face, and they like it.
Jagadīśa: That's what happened to us.
Indian man (1): Especially Indians. Lot of people like strong words. This rascal means...
Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: In America it's not such a strong word. In America that word "rascal" is not so strong as in India. In India when you use that word, they become very offended.
Indian man (1): Yes. Very strong.
Dayānanda: In America they like to be rascal.
Hṛdayānanda: In America if the father chastises the child, he calls him "rascal."
Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: It has a nice connotation.
Prabhupāda: (break) māyāra adhikāra. Now the ruling of this, what is called, fog is finished.
Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: Night also.
Prabhupāda: Eh?
Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: Night also?
Prabhupāda: Yes. Everything darkness finished. The sky is clear.
Hṛdayānanda: The fog was just on the ground. It wasn't up...
Prabhupāda: His elder brother, Udar Shankar, he became very famous man as a dancer, all over the world. Udar Shankar. And by imitating his brother, the Ravi Shankar also tried to become first-class sitarist. So family.... (break) ...was a little famous for artistic.... So that Udar Shankar was dancing in the Indian way, and there are many sculpture of dancing. Like that. That was his art. So he became famous.
Guru-kṛpā: He's not living? He's dead?
Prabhupāda: No, he's dead means now he's old man. He's about my age or little older than me. Now his skin has become slackened and body is not so strong to dance. It requires exercise. Therefore he's retired, I think, maybe dead. But I don't hear his name. He was more or less known in Europe as Shankar. But he was so popular that one my doctor friend.... He was educated in London, a medical officer of Allahabad. So he told me that "I saw that in Paris, Udar Shankar's dancing was advertised, and hundreds and thousands of people from England going to Paris, crossing the Channel to see him dance." He showed me. He's so popular. And now nobody asks for him. (laughs)
Guru-kṛpā: Another bubble.
Prabhupāda: Huh?
Guru-kṛpā: Another bubble. I remember when Ravi Shankar and George Harrison came to see you in Vṛndāvana.
Prabhupāda: Yes.
Guru-kṛpā: The first thing you asked them was "You are very famous, but what will you be next life? What is your guarantee for the next life?"
Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: Does the devotee, I mean just like you are always enthusing us to push on...
Prabhupāda: That is sharpening your weapons. That is also described. By serving the spiritual master, you keep your weapon always sharpened. And then take help from Kṛṣṇa, the words of spiritual master sharpen weapon and yasya prasādad bhagavata..., and the spiritual master is happy, then Kṛṣṇa immediately will help. He gives you strength. Suppose you got a sword, sharpened sword. But if you have no strength, what will you do with the sword? Kṛṣṇa will give you the strength, how to fight and kill the enemies. Everything is described. Therefore Caitanya Mahāprabhu (said) guru-kṛṣṇa-kṛpāya (CC Madhya 19.151), make your weapon sharpened by the instruction of the spiritual master and then Kṛṣṇa will give you strength, you'll be able to conquer. This figurative explanation I think last night I did. Here is a verse, acyuta bala, acyuta bala. Is Puṣṭa Kṛṣṇa here?
Hari-śauri: (calls out) Puṣṭa Kṛṣṇa?
Prabhupāda: We are soldiers of Kṛṣṇa, servants of Arjuna. Simply you will have to act accordingly, then you will finish up enemies. They have no power, although their number is hundred times. Just like Kurus and the Pāṇḍavas. They have no power, yatra yogeśvaraḥ kṛṣṇaḥ (BG 18.78). Keep Kṛṣṇa in your side, then everything will be successful. Tatra śrīr vijayo bhūtiḥ.
Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: Śrīla Prabhupāda, we have to go now, catch our (indistinct). You'll be coming to America in about a month's time?
Prabhupāda: I think so.
Hari-śauri: Two weeks.
Prabhupāda: Their order itself will be a testimony. If they order in their own form, "Supply this." Max Mueller was German. So long we are in this material world, this competition, animosity.... Even in the higher planetary system, there is no peaceful condition.
Jagadīśa: You feeling headache?
Prabhupāda: No, there is some pain. My teeth are now useless. So it is all rotten now. Sometimes it becomes acute. There is no strength in the teeth. Some of them, fifty percent, have already fallen. Therefore I cannot eat.
Jagadīśa: I think that a very nutritious diet can be made just from liquids.
Prabhupāda: Liquids, yes. Milk is the best food. Children, when there is no teeth, milk is the food. In Western country also, I think old men, they take milk and puffed rice. Is it?
Hari-śauri: Yes, soft foods anyway.
Prabhupāda: In India, especially in Bengal, there is a preparation, it is softer than the puffed rice-khoi, fused rice. That is very good. Light, at the same time soft purgative. That milk mixed with is a very good food for old men.
Interviewer: Yes. Do you think that this is because of the Western influence under which they have gone and you are...?
Prabhupāda: No, no, they wanted to compromise with the Westerners. They did not come to teach, but they wanted to be victimized by the Western people. They had no strength to save themselves. They have no strength. They have no determination. Hodgepodge, that's all. Therefore it was not successful. Not a single man became Kṛṣṇa conscious. Even nowadays. Now Vivekananda is famous in India that "He preached in America, all Americans have become Vedantists," something like that. Now, practically, you have gone in Vṛndāvana?
Interviewer: Yes.
Prabhupāda: Recently?
Interviewer: No, not recently.
Prabhupāda: You have seen our temple?
Interviewer: No, I have not.
Prabhupāda: So we have got our temple, that is considered the best temple in Vṛndāvana. You can show the pictures. So thousands and thousands of Americans went to Vṛndāvana for our temple and other temples. But there is another Vivekananda, Ramakrishna āśrama, nobody went there. Not a single. So what preaching they have done, from practical point of view? So many men went to our temple. They had no inquiry even that "We have heard that there is a Ramakrishna Mission Temple here. Where it is?" It is not..., Vṛndāvana is not a very big city. Everyone knows. Nobody, not a single person went there. And they visited other temples. So what kind of preaching, hmm? What do you think?
Prabhupāda: Don't take it as a sectarian religious system. It is very scientific understanding for spiritual life.
Harikeśa: But, ah, "Beware of the undefeatable reasoning and logic of the Hare Kṛṣṇas, who will steal away your children." (laughs) Because we argue so nicely because Śrīla Prabhupāda has trained us up very perfectly, because he also is the perfect teacher of this. Therefore the students can learn that way. So when we argue people become afraid, because it makes so much sense.
Prabhupāda: They accuse me, "kidnapper of children." But what is my kidnapping method? The young men, they understand philosophy. What I can do, kidnap them? I have no money, I have no strength.
Mike Robinson: But it exists purely as a charity, isn't that correct?
Hari-śauri: Yes, purely nonprofit.
Mike Robinson: Which must make it difficult sometimes, doesn't it?
Harikeśa: No, it's done out of love. So it is not at all difficult.
Mike Robinson: I see.
Jayatīrtha: No one requires any payment. The only payment is the fulfillment that they are experiencing.
Mike Robinson: But how about the electricity board and people like that? I mean, where do you get the money?
Jayatīrtha: Kṛṣṇa gives us the money.
Prabhupāda: (break) ...a large stock of water.
Devotee (1): Yes. There is lots of water underground, but it requires great equipment to bring it up in order to water all the land.
Prabhupāda: What is the difficulty?
Devotee (1): We have only the previous pump which was here before, and it's not strong enough to water everything. So we need to install a new pump to get more water.
Prabhupāda: This land ours?
Hari-śauri: Yes. Where that hump is on the brown field, up to that, where that tree is. Most of our land extends this way.
Bhagavān: Our land is mostly here.
Devotee (1): We have just taken barley from this field, Śrīla Prabhupāda, many grains.
Devotee (2): This is some, some buckwheat barley.
Prabhupāda: Hare Kṛṣṇa. (break) ...Castle?
Devotee (1): This is what they call a water castle. The water goes up and there's a big reservoir, and then by pressure it distributes to the houses.
Prabhupāda: So it is not being used?
Jayapatākā: Kiśora dāsa. He's also translating. He's a little more strong than Subhaga, although new. Very good boy, very humble. He's from a good family also.
Prabhupāda: What is the flood situation?
Gargamuni: Very mild monsoon this year. Almost drought. Almost. Very mild. Very little rain.
Prabhupāda: Rain is not very strong.
Gargamuni: No. Monsoon is not strong.
Jayapatākā: Our aus(?) crop has been hampered because of lack of rain and early monsoon. Only in the past week there's been a little rain. Otherwise, before, there was very little rain. Not fully drought...
Gargamuni: But less rain than previous years.
Jayapatākā: Everything is very green and nice, but so far as agriculture is concerned...
Prabhupāda: It requires more rain.
Jayapatākā: It requires more rain and early tide. Right now the river is full, but it is not flooding. It is full. See, Mr. Choudhuri, he was interested. At that time when the Chief Minister wrote that, then he wrote this, that "If you were to see the Chief Minister, then this type of letter could be submitted and he would definitely see you, "although it is not necessary to see him.
Prabhupāda: Do you think it is?
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Prabhupāda: That is also qualification. That is also qualification. Some way or other, if there is some service, it goes to the credit. Svalpam apy asya dharmasya. The foolish person may not know that "I am imperceptibly advancing even during my, this material life," but Kṛṣṇa takes. Just like Pūtanā. She gave service by allowing her breast to be sucked by Kṛṣṇa. Although her intention was to kill, but Kṛṣṇa took her as mother: "She has given Me service." This is Kṛṣṇa. "This rascal does not know that nobody can kill Me, but on some plea or other, she has given her breast open to be sucked by Me, and I have done it. Therefore she is My mother. She must get the promotion like Mother Yaśodā." This is Kṛṣṇa. He is very anxious to deliver us. So any little service done, He accepts. "All right, come on. You are accepted." This is Kṛṣṇa. Little service. "Let him do something." So kind. He comes for serving you.(?) He speaks, "Rascal, you do this. Surrender to Me and do something. You'll be relived from this janma-mṛtyu vyādhi." "No." Hog, dogs, they are—what is called—obstinate. The hog, living in dirty place, eating stool, and if you try to deliver from this, he'll not: "No. No. I am living here happily. Why you are disturbing me?" This is the... "Why you are trying to wash my brain? This is very good life." This is our...
Rāmeśvara: Sometimes we get gṛhasthas to join us, but they are not strong enough to do saṅkīrtana. So then we can encourage them to do some business like a normal gṛhastha in the world, to give some money to...
Prabhupāda: That Kṛṣṇa... Svakarmana: "All right, be engaged in your occupational duty."
Rāmeśvara: Just give something. Actually, if some gṛhasthas would do some business, it would take a little pressure off the brahmacārīs, and they can pass out more books. Now because the overhead is high in certain temples like New York, very high overhead, LA, very high, so we are collecting so much money. We could be giving out more books if we had extra money from the gṛhastha's business.
Prabhupāda: In Vṛndāvana.
Pṛthu-putra: In Vṛndāvana. Ah, yes. Puruṣottama, yes.
Prabhupāda: He has poisoned this Nitāi.
Pṛthu-putra: Oh. Is it because we have the desire to come in contact with such persons that we contact them, like Nitāi contacting that Puruṣottama?
Prabhupāda: You may not desire, but if you are not strong, you'll be misled by these rascals. But if we follow this instruction, Narottama dāsa Ṭhākura, āra nā koriho mane āśā, oh, then you become strong. Then you remain strong. Our bhakti line is anyābhilāṣitā-śūnyam (Brs. 1.1.11). We should be completely zero of our material desires. Anyābhilāṣitā-śūnyam (CC Madhya 19.167). Śūnyam means zero. So our classes are not held here?
Satsvarūpa: Bhāgavatam class in the morning? No.
Prabhupāda: Yes. Then? This is not good, so many devotees and there is no class. Where they have gone now?
Satsvarūpa: Gargamuni and Gurukṛpā Mahārāja have gone to a place to look for some land for a possible temple. I'm trying to remember the place. They say it's the place where Lord Caitanya was caught in the net by the fisherman. It is between...
Pṛthu-putra: Karanak.
Satsvarūpa: Between here and Purī. He said maybe there is some likely sights there, and they went to look.
Prabhupāda: Karanak is near Purī?
Satsvarūpa: It's near here.
Prabhupāda: Yes. We should keep our purity.
Ādi-keśava: So we are always to emphasize that...
Prabhupāda: Yes.
Ādi-keśava: ...that we are separate.
Hari-śauri: Kṛṣṇa's our strength. They have no strength.
Prabhupāda: Kṛṣṇa will save us. But the asylum in India with the government help, that will be very nice.
Ādi-keśava: So we'll investigate more in Delhi.
Prabhupāda: Immediately, first duty.
Ādi-keśava: Right.
Prabhupāda: When Gopāla is coming? He'll be able to...
Hari-śauri: Twenty-sixth or so, he's coming.
Ādi-keśava: Another question is...
Prabhupāda: We can take help from Indira Gandhi if we bring recommendation from the embassy.
Prabhupāda: Just photograph a copy.
Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: All right. When Yaśomatīnandana goes to Delhi he can make a photocopy. Send it to the man by mail. "Thought we'd let you know, CIAs are back in Māyāpur." (break)
Prabhupāda: ...because there is psychological difference.
Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: See, one thing is that... Of course, when one has no energy, when one has no strength, then it's hard to be active. But then the other thing is true, that when one is active, he gets appetite automatically.
Prabhupāda: Therefore those who are physically active, they can eat more.
Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: Yeah, it's true.
Prabhupāda: But those who are not physically active, they cannot eat.
Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: No. That's the difference between the Bengalis and the Punjabis. Punjabis work very hard.
Prabhupāda: No, they eat also.
Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: And they eat very nicely.
Prabhupāda: They are healthy men.
Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: The Bengalis, they do a lot of clerical jobs, sitting in one place.
Prabhupāda: They get diabetes.
Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: Really?
Prabhupāda: First class.
Kulādri: Thank you, Śrīla Prabhupāda.
Prabhupāda: So make a list and keep with you.
Kulādri: Inventory. And the checks?
Prabhupāda: Check out. (pause) We want kīrtana. (soft kīrtana starts) (break)
Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: You're a pure devotee. But as you are always saying, "You should pray," therefore we're not very strong in praying. But you are a pure devotee. So Kṛṣṇa will hear your prayers. If you desire to live, then Kṛṣṇa can make it happen.
Prabhupāda: You are all pure devotees, because you have no other desire.
Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: We are very neophyte, though. Now you're not drinking, so how will you live, Śrīla Prabhupāda? If you stop drinking everything, how will you get any strength? You're tired of trying anymore? You don't think it's possible, Śrīla Prabhupāda? (Prabhupāda coughing mucus) (break) (devotees chanting in background)
Prabhupāda: That jewelry, etcetera, Kīrtanānanda gave...
Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: What about the...? I have them here.
Prabhupāda: Who gave? Kulādri?
Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: Kulādri brought them. Silk.
Prabhupāda: Very, very costly thing.
Prabhupāda: No, they say "You drink this, drink this, drink this."
Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: But Prabhupāda, unless you drink a...
Prabhupāda: No. That's all right, but the drinking forcibly, that is a great botheration.
Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: But isn't it... I mean the greatest botheration is that you're not well. And the reason you're not well is that you have no strength. And unless you take in, you're not going to get any strength.
Prabhupāda: So how can I take constantly?
Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: It may be bothersome, but it's not so bothersome as being in this ill condition. In order to get better, it seems to me that it's going to be some botheration in order to get better.
Prabhupāda: No, no, bother... What botheration? I cannot take so much.
Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: See, it would be easier if we only had to give you three or four times in a day, but you take so little at a time...
Prabhupāda: What can I do?
Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: Can't you...? I mean...
Bhavānanda: They said that one of the symptoms of this infection is—this poisoning—is that you become averse to taking any liquid or any food. Just like you're expressing your aversion that you're not able to. But actually you are able to, but you don't want to. But you have to force yourself in order to get better.
Prabhupāda: Then, then the same problem comes, and they will forcibly...
Prabhupāda: Dr. Ghosh said no massage. The other doctor says, "No, what is the harm?"
Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: One thing that we have seen is that when Dr. Ghosh and Dr. Gopal talk, they disagree on a number of points. Someone pointed out that Dr. Ghosh is a little bit old-fashioned. He's not so much up-to-date any more. He's eighty-two years old. Just like he gave recommendation for when you wash your mouth, using hydrogen peroxide. Now, Dr. Gopal stated hydrogen peroxide is very cleansing, but nowadays they make things which are not so strong, and without harmful effects of hydrogen peroxide. But because Dr. Ghosh is a little old-fashioned he's not aware so much of these things.
Prabhupāda: So? They disagree?
Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: What, Śrīla Prabhupāda? Yes, on some points they do.
Prabhupāda: So which is correct?
Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: Which is correct? Well, it's obviously a fact... I mean anybody who's gargled with hydrogen peroxide knows that it's very strong. That's the point. It's very strong. In your condition, it's very strong.
Bhavānanda: Dr. Gopal, Śrīla Prabhupāda, he recommended this medicine, and you took this medicine yesterday. And he recommended increase the liquids...
Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: These are all Dr. Gopal's...
Bhavānanda: ...and this morning you had clear urine. So...
Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: This is not Dr. Ghosh's prescriptions. These are Dr. Gopal's prescriptions. When they went in the other room after seeing you, these were all recommended by Dr. Gopal.
Prabhupāda: Now I am puzzled.
Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: What, Śrīla Prabhupāda?
Prabhupāda: Puzzled.
Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: Puzzled. I mean, we are not able to let you go, Śrīla Prabhupāda. We are not strong enough. We want you to be with us. We need you longer.
Prabhupāda: Anyway, what can be done? You give me that preparation?
Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: Complan.
Prabhupāda: Hm?
Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: Yes. Bhakti-caru is preparing.
Prabhupāda: Where is Girirāja?
Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: Girirāja? You want to see him?
Prabhupāda: Where he is?
Brahmānanda: He's here.
Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: Probably at ārati, guru-pūjā. Now there's a class. Should we call him?
Prabhupāda: No.
Prabhupāda: And still it is dark?
Pañca-draviḍa: No, the drapes are closed.
Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: It's not dark, but it's not...
Bhavānanda: Sun is not up full.
Śatadhanya: Sun is not strong yet.
Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: The sun only rises at about a quarter to seven now. It used to rise at like five-thirty. That's why ārati now is at five o'clock instead of four-fifteen.
Prabhupāda: So it is not possible to have parikrama now?
Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: If you desire, anything is possible, Śrīla Prabhupāda.
Haṁsadūta: It's not that cold outside. It's possible.
Prabhupāda: If it is possible, why not do it?
Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: Okay.
Prabhupāda: So you can bring some sweater.
Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: Yes, we'll give you warm clothing, sweater and hat. Just tell Upendra to come, Śatadhanya.
Prabhupāda: Sweater and cap.
Prabhupāda: Swelling has not... (long silence)
Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: Śrīla Prabhupāda? About two days ago you said that either the kavirāja should stay here or we should go with him. So why should we change that idea?
Prabhupāda: Because in this morning I was fainting. So there was no strength. How long I (sic:) circumbulate?
Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: About a half hour.
Prabhupāda: Even half hour, if I am fainting... So if I die without medicine, without kavirāja, what is the harm? Hm?
Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: According to the kavirāja, his treatment is that first of all he has to take care of your liver and kidneys before giving you strength. He said there's no question of you getting any strength until your liver and kidneys are healed.
Prabhupāda: So take the medicine.
Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: Yes. So the first part of his cure is to help your liver and kidneys. Then, when they are functioning properly, you'll be able to eat and other things which will automatically give strength. Medicine will not give strength, but medicine can cure the organs which are now not working properly.
Prabhupāda: No, you take medicine from him.
Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: Right. That was his proposal. His proposal was that you take medicine, and then after ten or fifteen days, you may have enough strength... And he was going to come back and then take you to Māyāpur.
Prabhupāda: So do that.
Prabhupāda: Then I shall also be very glad.
Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: Right. So that is the basis for moving you, that there should be some positive strength shown.
Prabhupāda: Now there is no strength.
Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: No. Śrīla Prabhupāda? Kṛṣṇa dāsa Bābājī has come to see you. Shall we have him come in now?
Prabhupāda: Yes.
Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: Set up the chair. He'll be coming in a minute or two.
Prabhupāda: Get one small light.
Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: No Śatadhanya, the one on the right. On the right.
Prabhupāda: (Bengali)
Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: No, he hasn't come in yet, Śrīla Prabhupāda.
Prabhupāda: (Bengali)
Kṛṣṇa dāsa Bābājī: (Bengali)
Prabhupāda: Tamāla Kṛṣṇa? (Kṛṣṇa dāsa Bābājī chanting japa)
Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: Yes, Śrīla Prabhupāda.
Prabhupāda: What is the use of calling him?
Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: The use of calling is that he... According to him... This is what I understood. The main problem you're feeling is that you have no strength. This is the sum and substance. There's no strength.
Prabhupāda: So how he can give strength?
Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: How can he give strength? Just like makara-dhvaja is for giving strength.
Prabhupāda: Makara-dhvaja was not giving strength.
Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: No, that was not makara-dhvaja. That kavirāja said that was not makara-dhvaja.
Bhavānanda: And he also said that in your condition now you can't take makara-dhvaja.
Prabhupāda: I cannot take anything. I feel comfort only lying down.
Bhakti-caru: You can take something lying down, Śrīla Prabhupāda. Just a little...
Prabhupāda: That I have taken.
Bhakti-caru: Yes. Then should we give you some more after half an hour? Then you have to take it more frequently then.
Bhavānanda: (whispering) But he won't do that.
Prabhupāda: That is not possible. This is comfortable.
Prabhupāda: It is warm now. Hm. (break) What Shastriji said?
Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: Hm. I had a nice talk with Shastriji, very detailed talk. He explained that the main... He said we have brought you to him at the very last possible moment. He said had we come six months earlier, so much easier it would have been. He said this time that we have called him just now was just timely that he came back again. He said that the main problem is the kidney. He said the kidney is working, otherwise you could not pass urine. And the medicine which he has given over the past week has had an effect, because the urine is increased. He explains that the whole body, there's very little blood due to not having eaten for so many months, and there's great weakness because of this. He says the muscles are all more or less gone; therefore you have no strength, because the blood is not there. And because you're so weak, he can't give strong medicine, because it will be too strong for you. He has to give it very, very carefully and slowly, in small doses. He says the kidney, urine goes downwards, and blood goes upwards. So the urine is passing. Now he's going to give... He started today already giving medicine which will help to form blood. And automatically... He says that... I asked him, "How will we know if it is working? Will Prabhupāda feel stronger?" He said, "Not immediately. I can't give it very much dose." He said, "I'll be able to tell it from the pulse."
| Page Title: | Not strong (Conversations) |
| Compiler: | MadhuGopaldas, RupaManjari |
| Created: | 12 of Apr, 2013 |
| Totals by Section: | BG=0, SB=0, CC=0, OB=0, Lec=0, Con=45, Let=0 |
| No. of Quotes: | 45 |