Prabhupāda: (laughing) The scientist is angry.
Svarūpa Dāmodara: The soul is trapped as well as untrapped in the material body...
Prabhupāda: Because he wanted to be trapped.
Svarūpa Dāmodara: But sometimes it is also untrapped. But sometimes he is also free.
Prabhupāda: No, by nature, he is not mixed up with these material things, but he is entrapped by his free will. Just like we are staying here. We are not bound to stay here, but we have come here. Nobody has forced us to come here.
Svarūpa Dāmodara: So is that philosophy, simultaneously one and different...
Prabhupāda: Yes.
Svarūpa Dāmodara: ...that acintya-bhedābheda is also applicable in the case of...
Prabhupāda: No, soul never mixes with the matter. Now I have come here, I am not mixed up with this jungle.