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No, you explained that ("He accepted him as learned scholar, but He did not accept him as very highly realized soul.") before. His guru, Vallabhacarya's guru, is... He's in Madhavendra Puri's line?

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Conversations and Morning Walks

1975 Conversations and Morning Walks

Hm? No. They come in the Viṣṇu Svāmī. I do not exactly know who was his immediate guru.


Conversation with Devotees -- March 31, 1975, Mayapur:

Prabhupāda: Vallabhācārya was rejected by Caitanya Mahāprabhu.

Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: Yeah, I know that. So actually . . .

Prabhupāda: He was simply proud of his education. He had no realization.

Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: You explained that . . .

Acyutānanda: Do they worship in vātsalya-rasa, or just show?

Prabhupāda: Show, formality.

Acyutānanda: It's not genuine.

Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: It's not genuine.

Prabhupāda: Some of them say that "Kṛṣṇa, becoming . . . before becoming polluted." They say like that.

Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: Yeah, they do.

Prabhupāda: That means childhood age, there is no pollution, and youthhood age, Kṛṣṇa's, it was polluted by the gopīs. This is their version. "Kṛṣṇa becomes polluted."

Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: Yeah, they say like that.

Prabhupāda: Do they say like that?

Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: Yes. I have spoken to them, in Hyderabad, that Bal Krishna Das. And another thing they say is that Rādhārāṇī's name is not mentioned in Bhāgavata. So this whole emphasis on Rādhā is not correct.

Acyutānanda: Is not correct.

Prabhupāda: That means they cannot understand rādhā-kṛṣṇa-praṇaya-vikṛti (CC Adi 1.5). They cannot understand. And therefore in their community you won't find any high-class devotee. Simply official sentiment, that's all.

Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: I . . . is Vallabhācārya . . .? So he cannot be considered actually in proper line.

Prabhupāda: Because Vallabhācārya was rejected by Caitanya Mahāprabhu.

Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: He's in the line with . . .

Prabhupāda: He accepted him as a learned scholar, but He did not accept him as very highly realized soul.

Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: No, you explained that before. His guru, Vallabhācārya's guru, is . . . he's in Mādhavendra Purī's line?

Prabhupāda: Hmm? No.

Acyutānanda: Viṣṇu Svāmī . . .

Prabhupāda: They come in the Viṣṇu Svāmī. I do not exactly know who was his immediate guru.

Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: Oh. I'm just trying to clear these points up because, I remember when I was preaching in South India, this discussion came up, that . . . just like Mādhavendra Purī, he found the Deity of Gopāla, and you've explained . . .

Prabhupāda: That is our Gauḍīya. Mādhavendra Purī is Gauḍīya Vaiṣṇava.

Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: Yes. You explained how he was worshiping the Deity. Now, that Deity of Gopāla . . .

Acyutānanda: Śrīnāthjī.

Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: Śrīnāthjī. So that Deity was eventually handed over?

Prabhupāda: Yes.

Acyutānanda: During Muhammadans, the Deity was moved.

Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: And Vallabhācārya . . .

Acyutānanda: I heard that after the death of Vallabhācārya, Sanātana Gosvāmī told his son to worship the Gopāla Deity. He engaged his son, Vallabhācārya's son, as a pūjārī in Govardhana. So then it came into their hands.

Prabhupāda: Hmm? That may be, yes.

Acyutānanda: Then, when the Deity was moved, it was moved to Nāthadvāra, and now they, now they are . . .

Prabhupāda: When the Deity was given to them, they could do anything.

Page Title:No, you explained that ("He accepted him as learned scholar, but He did not accept him as very highly realized soul.") before. His guru, Vallabhacarya's guru, is... He's in Madhavendra Puri's line?
Compiler:MadhuGopaldas, Rishab
Created:16 of Jul, 2011
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