Jyotirmayī: So he said this is a real problem, how to practice religion not only on the individual platform, but on the social platform.
Prabhupāda: No, we are teaching. Our Kṛṣṇa consciousness movement, we are teaching how to practice religion.
Roger Maria: (French)
Jyotirmayī: He said that even though he himself is materialist and atheist, he propagates this in his articles, in his newspaper, you know, he propagates certain aspects of religion.
Prabhupāda: No. First of all, we must know what is religion, and what is atheist or what is theist. First of all, if we know what is religion, then we can define who is following, who is not following.
Roger Maria: (French)
Jyotirmayī: So he said what he can give is his own experience of religion and what he is propagating when he talks in his articles.
Prabhupāda: What is his experience of religion?
Roger Maria: (French)
Jyotirmayī: So he said that in Hinduism, what he thinks is the best . . .
Prabhupāda: No, no. Religion is not meant for Hindus or Christians—for everyone. So there must be a general definition of religion.
Roger Maria: (French)
Jyotirmayī: So he said that his idea is that advaita-Vedānta philosophy is the best in the world.
Prabhupāda: What is that advaita? What is that advaita?
Roger Maria: (French)
Jyotirmayī: He said that advaita-Vedānta . . .
Prabhupāda: What is that advaita-veda philosophy? Let him define.
Roger Maria: (French)
Jyotirmayī: Advaita. A means "without." Dvaita . . .
Prabhupāda: "Without"?
Yogeśvara: "Not." Dvaita means dual. So non-dual.
Jyotirmayī: Non-dual. "There is not two." This is advaita.
Prabhupāda: So what is that one?
Roger Maria: (French)
Yogeśvara: So what I think this gentleman is explaining is that he finds the idea of non-dualism very attractive because he says that if a real religion is to fulfill it's responsibilities, then it will not try to teach its followers that there are two separate things—there is the creation, and there is you, the creator, that there is you.